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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayngie View Post
    So air bags are the Devils work then?

    If this thread goes much longer then i'm sure we'll see a link between air bags and global warming...

    I'm going out to get mine disconnected if they are that bad, actually also my ABS as that's are sure to be a hinderance in an accident...in fact my climate control is also out the window, hate to doze off in some warm preset cabin temp and have my Airbags and ABS let me down just when i need them ( assuming that my bad driving comes with having ABS, ACE and Airbags as a rule ), and my ACE is sure to fail somehow in a spot i need it the most, such as avoiding an accident by swerving around floundering non ABS cars and the like, causing me to rely on my hopelessly inadequate Airbags and ABS...

    Actually, I think i'll leave the comforts of the D2 at home from now on and stick to driving my Kombi van, it has no ABS ( good old drums ), no Airbags, no power steering, and goes so slow i don't ever have to worry about slowing down in a hurry!, can't even de-fog the windscreen in it, so that must be much safer in modern traffic right??

    So the best Disco is one without any modern saftey aids....question answered, glad we all agree!

    Ray

    Im not saying they are the devils work but this attitude that they are the saviour of all thing alive in a car accident is just not true.

    Half the guys on here that have these tube bars and body lifts are fitting them illegally due to the fact that the car is fitted with airbags and has to remain compatible to be roadworthy thus registerable...legaly.

    Ok, these mods are not nessesary and some of the others that dont leave the black top may even say that they shouldnt be done but the fact is that thay are done and that then makes the car technically unregisterable and because of that it is uninsurable including TAC.

    I dont want air bags because they are not nessesary in my opinion but if I didnt have the choice when I bought my car they would still be there as is the one in the carolla that is our second car.


    Quote Originally Posted by 29dinosaur View Post
    No I don't agree .... the best car (call it a disco if you will because it went to just about as many places a a disco) was my mums 1963 VW beetle. It went to the moon and back on the smell of a kleenex tissue, sounded better than any yank V8, had no ABS - didn't ever break down, no airbags (thank goodness otherwise my mum would have been killed if and when she hit something), had no ACE and biy did we know that when she took the old forest rd bend at penshurst, and moreover I leanrt to drive on it (togetehr with some series LR out on a farm at Armidale and Condobolin)... The moden day disco is an elktrical wizzardry thats going to cause more grief than Dubya Bush IMHO. Stick with an early model VW beetle rather than any earth polluting 300tdi (even if its the early models without face smashing ABS!)
    GO VW! And with that stuff any other opinions.
    VW's were a great car, Ive had 2 beetles, 2 type 3 square backs and 1 notch back and 1 barndoor combi.

    I dont think that they were any safer or less safe than anything else built back then and the fact that all of us grew up in those cars that if you had a little bingle or a parking shunt it didnt write off the car then I would say that they couldnt of been that bad.

    Granted, impoovements to crumple zones and restaint systems are much better than back then but It is my belief and you can take it or leave it that airbags just sell cars and dont do much else.

    Stats dont mean anything to me as they can be loaded either way as Ive said before so in that case......NOTHING has been prooved IMHO.

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    Bloody hell ya all got it wrong ......................... its mine hahahahahahahaha

    err really they are all good, I personally like the V8's with the solid axles I prefer the 5 point rear end to the watts link

    this leads to the series I because it is easier to modify due to the lack of fancy stuff.

    I am to slack to work out to post photos otherwise I would show yo all what I have done to mine..............

    But I presume you are asking which is the best standard vehicle

    Sorry no idea

    Blythe

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    I have and love my series 1 it is what you all seem to want a 300tdi,

    so when I buy my series 2 for all the comfort and electronic gismo's it comes with I should have a line of people knocking at my door
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Im not saying they are the devils work but this attitude that they are the saviour of all thing alive in a car accident is just not true.

    Half the guys on here that have these tube bars and body lifts are fitting them illegally due to the fact that the car is fitted with airbags and has to remain compatible to be roadworthy thus registerable...legaly.

    Ok, these mods are not nessesary and some of the others that dont leave the black top may even say that they shouldnt be done but the fact is that thay are done and that then makes the car technically unregisterable and because of that it is uninsurable including TAC.

    I dont want air bags because they are not nessesary in my opinion but if I didnt have the choice when I bought my car they would still be there as is the one in the carolla that is our second car.

    .

    My other half is vertically challenged so airbags are out of flavour here too. Besides they have a 10yr shelf life and guess how old a Tdi is.
    ABS? These old systems aren't smart enough, you're better off without it, if you know how to brake you don't need ABS period.

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    I think that the best Disco model is the Discovery 3.

    It's got the space, the air suspension is a much better design than the D2's system, a superb diesel motor, and lots more airbags!

    Oh, and it's won more international awards than you can poke a stick at.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Im not saying they are the devils work but this attitude that they are the saviour of all thing alive in a car accident is just not true.

    Half the guys on here that have these tube bars and body lifts are fitting them illegally due to the fact that the car is fitted with airbags and has to remain compatible to be roadworthy thus registerable...legaly.

    Ok, these mods are not nessesary and some of the others that dont leave the black top may even say that they shouldnt be done but the fact is that thay are done and that then makes the car technically unregisterable and because of that it is uninsurable including TAC.

    I dont want air bags because they are not nessesary in my opinion but if I didnt have the choice when I bought my car they would still be there as is the one in the carolla that is our second car.

    Granted, impoovements to crumple zones and restaint systems are much better than back then but It is my belief and you can take it or leave it that airbags just sell cars and dont do much else.

    Stats dont mean anything to me as they can be loaded either way as Ive said before so in that case......NOTHING has been prooved IMHO.
    as for buying bullbars--
    the ONLY choice you get for a D2 is winch or no winch.
    they dont make non airbag models.

    as for ABS,
    I agree 100I that I could maybe do better on a dry straight road after a few goes,,
    as for Mrs Pedro???
    as for in the rain?
    as for sudden change in surfaces?

    improvements in restraints?
    they've had the lap-sash style for a good few years now and the ONLY improvement apart from the inertia-reel is the Pre-Tensioner, which is set off by the cars ELECTRONICS


    why do you want to up-date if your disco is the best?
    and why not update to a LR that has won lots and lots of awards from Professional motoring journo's around the world?

    as far as I can see,, there's nothing to update too that fits your requirements,,
    and I think THATS a good thing.

    all you need now is a floral pattern moo-moo, a head band and a long hair wig.

    Peace man.
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    MY00.5 td5 manual for me. She's a bloody beauty and gets me and my family out to see this great country and then gets me back again and she has never had a hiccup (stroking wooden table lovingly as i write). Woo Hoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    ..

    as for ABS,
    I agree 100I that I could maybe do better on a dry straight road after a few goes,,
    as for Mrs Pedro???
    as for in the rain?
    as for sudden change in surfaces?

    ...
    Ok, I'm not that stubborn to believe it doesn't have it's advantages in certain conditions. ABS would be better if hard braking and turning at the same time for example because I cannot apply full pressure to the wheels with grip without locking the unloaded wheel/s. Same if there is a diesel slick in one wheel track, and the etc.
    BUT, importantly to me, ABS doesn't differentiate between surface changes like I can and being that it is a 4WD, and I use it, I do tend to encounter a range of surfaces.
    If I had a Commondore or similar with dedicated road duties, I wouldn't hesitate to opt for ABS (do you even have a choice anymore?).

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    No Dan,, no choice.
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

    '93 V8 Rossi
    '97 to '07. sold.
    '01 V8 D2
    '06 to 10. written off.
    '03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
    '10 to '21
    '16.5 RRS SDV8
    '21 to Infinity and Beyond!


    1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
    Home is where you park it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post

    all you need now is a floral pattern moo-moo, a head band and a long hair wig.

    Peace man.


    and a VW Combie
    Cheers Baz.

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