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    I have to agree, I hate chaps, especially when your cutting up the head, BUT due to a rather large scar on my left knee I wear them, even at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crump View Post
    I have to agree, I hate chaps, especially when your cutting up the head, BUT due to a rather large scar on my left knee I wear them, even at home.
    More details?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    I also drop start ALL my saws even the 066 My back doesn't like me bending and ...........pulling

    I've gotta argue with you on this, not for entertainment....because I don't agree

    I am an IRRESPONSIBLE operator, you get that, they teach you this in all forms of JSEA training, bullshat courses, safety programs etc.........

    I DON'T use the correct PPE, this is the point, experienced drivers die on the road to

    The bloke who waddles down the road, to buy a $99 saw has a couple of sticks to prune in his back yard, and like Loanrangie said, a little bit of wood, bet LR is double backing a 35" log, or dropping a 40' tree, this is where things go wrong

    I HATE chaps, they're a pain in the backside, all the people I've met or know aside from 1, that have had chainsaw accidents, have had limbs fall on them, my old man included, knocked him out, broken tooth, after a limb had fallen through the shed roof, cleaning it up he dropped the limb on himself

    1 other had kickback, why?, because when it kicked back, he wasn't holgin the saw properly, nice scare across his face to

    The fact is, I CAN'T see the damage with a 26cc saw................and I especially can't see you BS point about it being $99 I wouldn;t trust it, or Carlton chain is worse than stihl or Oregon so its unsafe

    I drink beer and use a chainsaw (I drink beer and do lots of things), I climb things and prune I drop big trees, in singlet, (always wear steel caps and work pants, but merely out of habit) We ARE the bigger candidates, for injury, experienced operators get complacent, most new people are scared and cautious









    Jeeeeeeeez, I AM a cowboy ain't I

    Yeah but Matt.......you know your wrong.......you have admitted to it and still are that your doing the wrong thing.

    It's the people who think that they are right in what they are doing that is the problem.

    Like I said Matt, Im not the Chainsaw police, if you dont want to wear the stuff then Im not going to go up to Yinnar and argue with you about it, I dont see the point because you will still do what you want and I will still believe what I believe so there is nothing to be gained by it.

    There is a difference between someone who has grown up with this stuff and the average desk jokey that has never touched a saw but his enthusiasm outways his ability and sees a bargin a bunnings.....that my point.

    As far as the Carlton chain goes, a .325 pitch carlton for a 12" pole saw I got quoted today at $32 so add the $42 for the bar I bought the other week (an Oregon no roller) then your only paying $26 for the chain saw.

    Might go buy one for the spare bar and chain for the pole saw and have a light pruning saw if needed .......Nope dont think so....

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    Had just completed my accredited "Chainsaw Survival" course with a new employer and was cutting up fallen trees for a roadworks job. I'm walking around in the tops of the fallen trees behind an excavator as he's pushing them, cutting them up into size for them to be stacked to burn.Middle of summer, hot as hell and the chaps are getting caught in all the twigs etc so I take them off. The very next tree, lifted the saw out after the first cut and turned to take a step and lifted my lilywhite knee up into the still roaring chain.Splat!!! 24 stitches and two infections, I'll stick to the chaps,but I'm a novice, I dont know how the Pros where them all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crump View Post
    I have to agree, I hate chaps, especially when your cutting up the head, BUT due to a rather large scar on my left knee I wear them, even at home.
    Dont get me wrong, I think they are a PITA but one which can minimise the damage a saw will do if you hit yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crump View Post
    Had just completed my accredited "Chainsaw Survival" course with a new employer and was cutting up fallen trees for a roadworks job. I'm walking around in the tops of the fallen trees behind an excavator as he's pushing them, cutting them up into size for them to be stacked to burn.Middle of summer, hot as hell and the chaps are getting caught in all the twigs etc so I take them off. The very next tree, lifted the saw out after the first cut and turned to take a step and lifted my lilywhite knee up into the still roaring chain.Splat!!! 24 stitches and two infections, I'll stick to the chaps,but I'm a novice, I dont know how the Pros where them all day.
    They dont, they wear the Stihl or husky pants with the jam up sewn in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Yeah but Matt.......you know your wrong.......you have admitted to it and still are that your doing the wrong thing.

    It's the people who think that they are right in what they are doing that is the problem.

    Like I said Matt, Im not the Chainsaw police, if you dont want to wear the stuff then Im not going to go up to Yinnar and argue with you about it, I dont see the point because you will still do what you want and I will still believe what I believe so there is nothing to be gained by it.

    There is a difference between someone who has grown up with this stuff and the average desk jokey that has never touched a saw but his enthusiasm outways his ability and sees a bargin a bunnings.....that my point.

    As far as the Carlton chain goes, a .325 pitch carlton for a 12" pole saw I got quoted today at $32 so add the $42 for the bar I bought the other week (an Oregon no roller) then your only paying $26 for the chain saw.

    Might go buy one for the spare bar and chain for the pole saw and have a light pruning saw if needed .......Nope dont think so....
    Your tunnel vision is difficult to argue with, I give up

    Your right I do the wrong thing, that's haveing a self reflective look on yourself, try it, you might like it

    Your replies never actually addressed what I;d written

    You never addressed that a little tiny saw has less likely hood of kick, nor the wood that's being cut up is unlikely to exceed 6" diameter

    You never addressed why you wouldn;t trust a $26 dollar saw and WHY it is likely to kill you

    Or why carlton chain is crap and unsafe

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Your tunnel vision is difficult to argue with, I give up

    Your right I do the wrong thing, that's haveing a self reflective look on yourself, try it, you might like it

    Your replies never actually addressed what I;d written

    You never addressed that a little tiny saw has less likely hood of kick, nor the wood that's being cut up is unlikely to exceed 6" diameter What Bushrover said basically covered that a small top handle saw is more likely to have kickback than a rear handled saw......and he made a pretty good point with it that I didnt think needed adding to.

    Plus there is more chance of kick back when cutting on the top of the bar like when your limbing and the like due to Kickback will only occur when cutting in the upper quadrant and with the less leverage then theres a potential problem.


    You never addressed why you wouldn;t trust a $26 dollar saw and WHY it is likely to kill you My point wasnt that it would kill me or you, that I stated several times Matt, the point was that the average Joe can afford one at $100 so it opens up a whole new market, one that is full of people who's enthusiasm outways their ability (as we see with old bomb cars which they do all the work them selves on FOR INSTANCE or as I stated, the desk jokey with the same attitude)

    Or why carlton chain is crap and unsafe I dont think I said a Carlton chain was crap, the statement was tell me what chain is better well Sthil would have to be close to the best on the market at the moment and Oregon is what most people tend to use and is a safe chain with plenty of tech to back it up but there is nothing wrong with a carlton chain if it is a real carlton chain and due to the price, I doubt it would be a very high quality chain no matter what brand it is.
    Does that satisfy you Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    You never addressed why you wouldn;t trust a $26 dollar saw and WHY it is likely to kill you My point wasnt that it would kill me or you, that I stated several times Matt, the point was that the average Joe can afford one at $100 so it opens up a whole new market, one that is full of people who's enthusiasm outways their ability (as we see with old bomb cars which they do all the work them selves on FOR INSTANCE or as I stated, the desk jokey with the same attitude)

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/767097-post23.html

    ^^^right there, you said you wouldn;t trust it

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    For some reason I love chainsaws, ( I have owned 40-50 or more over the last 30 years) so this is interesting stuff. A couple of points I would like to make and these are based on real incidents.

    You can legally kill yourself with a chainsaw at home.
    You can not legally kill your neighbour, friend, kids, wife or any one else with a chainsaw at home. Case in point - neighbour is helping clean up after a storm and uses the property owners saw. The property owner has all PPE but does not give it to his neighbour, also does not give any operating instructions to the neighbour. End result the neighbour successfully sues after trying to cut off his leg.

    You may loose your chainsaw operating license if caught on a State Forest (in QLD) without - helmet, visor, ear muffs, safety chaps or trousers, steel cap boots, gloves as a minimum.

    If you lone your chainsaw to anyone make sure you provide the above safety gear and the manufacturers safety instructions. This goes for any power tool.

    You are a fool if you dont use PPE. I'll qualify that - you are only a fool after you have injured yourself and get caught out, and have to explain why you had no PPE. As any good thief will tell you "If you dont get caught you haven't committed a crime"

    I was involved in writing a SWP (Safe Work Practice) for the use of ladders at a QLD university. 4 pages of bull**** but there was no way a worker could successfully sue the university if they injured themselves when using a ladder.
    And finally - for those who have done a chainsaw familiarisation and operation course you all should have been told to never, NEVER use a chainsaw when on a ladder, never ever use a chainsaw one handed and never ever drop start a chainsaw.

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