Thread: 4 car thieves died

CraigE
You're right about this problem and others becoming an endless cycle.

There is good evidence that children who are abused have an increased likelihood of committing the same offence when they are adults.

I'm sure the same thing happens with other issues too.

There are now families where no-one for three generations has held down a job. Where will children in that environment develop a work ethic?

I can see how you would have seen a lot of examples of dysfunctional families where you grew up. The examples I was talking about didn't come from a community where that sort of problem was common. In fact superficially the family looked like any other happy family.

The parental example is so important, but today there are so many other powerful influences such TV and peer pressure that in some cases it is overwhelmed.

I don't know what the answer is, but I believe that without appropriate role models, the answer will be harder to find.

Most of us have seen children go off the rails even when the parents have done everything in their power to bring up their children the right way.

Occasionally I have seen the children of irresponsible parents who have turned into model citizens. However that must take enormous determination on the part of the child.

No matter who they were, I'm sure that the consequence of their actions will be used as an example to others. Hopefully, this will mean that other lives will be saved and that the youngsters will grow up to be valued members of society.

retrospect is wonderful, but all this stuff can be taught to a two year old - respect for others, for others things, sharing, learning, obedience, discipline... by the time the kids are in primary school it's often too late, but not impossible to steer them onto the right road... you learn from young what is acceptable and what is not, we've all seen kids repeat behaviour after mum and/or dad's example (everything from swearing to belting other kids coz it's how dad gets his way around the house)...

like it or not, we are the product of our environment - I had a good one growing up, there is also no reason why others couldn't IF their parents gave enough of a damn....

ummm, can I ask all the parents to take a good look at the games their children are playing on their computers or game consuls......have you seen the latest Grand Theft Auto game?
there is a saying that what the mind of man concieves it can equally achieve... grand theft auto is just one of so many platform "games" condoning theft, lying, cheating, stealing, unbelieveable violence and equally expilicit bloodshed and destruction......and then theres television .....dont get me started

Wow, what an eye opener of what people are like/think. A 10 year old kid doesn't know what he is doing and you think it's okay he died and have no sympathy?

wow.

Xavier.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

ummm, can I ask all the parents to take a good look at the games their children are playing on their computers or game consuls......have you seen the latest Grand Theft Auto game?
there is a saying that what the mind of man concieves it can equally achieve... grand theft auto is just one of so many platform "games" condoning theft, lying, cheating, stealing, unbelieveable violence and equally expilicit bloodshed and destruction......and then theres television .....dont get me started

Talking about GTA4. I was playing it just before logging on here. Great game Better lock your cars up next time I am out on a trip, lol.

Xav

How sad. Don't care how old they were, what they were doing at the time or which racial category they belonged to it's a terrible waste of life.

Wouldn't wish it on any parent. There but for the grace of god.

Nature knows teenage boys do stupid things that's why (without ivf or choice) there are naturally 5% more boys born than girls. Mind you the way teenage girls are acting lately it may be just as dangerous for them soon, hopefully not.


Martin

Originally Posted by Hucksta

based on the fact that they are relatives of AFL footballers FARMER and PICKETT it would be safe to say that they are Aboriginal.

I should have Googled those names. They meant nothing to me.

The aboriginal community seems to have a problem that no one knows how to attack.

Having lost a child, as have others on here, I can begin to imagine how the parents feel. Mine son was an adult, the loss of child would be awful.

Originally Posted by vnx205

There are now families where no-one for three generations has held down a job. Where will children in that environment develop a work ethic?

We see that in the white community in some of the Housing Commission suburbs here in Sydney. (I realise that Simon is not saying this is a purely aboriginal problem.)

Originally Posted by Xavie

Wow, what an eye opener of what people are like/think. A 10 year old kid doesn't know what he is doing .

Xavier, that is the legal view. Kids of today are far more savvy than we were at that age. There have been calls to lower the legal age to below 10 for that very reason. It's called doli incapax.

We see them at work, they know they can break the law with impunity - and they tell us that.
See Legal definition of a juvenile [Young people and crime]