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16th January 2011, 12:35 PM
DiscoMick

Thanks, that was great.
Africa is certainly on our list of places we want to go.
What countries would you recommend for a couple who are actually fairly well travelled, have been to some dodgy places in Asia and survived, and would like to enjoy ourselves, visit natural places, avoid he worst tourist traps and meet real people?
16th January 2011, 12:53 PM
DeeJay

Fantastic photo's - thanks for the update.

I know this one - it's clay...:angel:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...011/01/192.jpg
16th January 2011, 10:01 PM
spudboy

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Thanks, that was great.
Africa is certainly on our list of places we want to go.
What countries would you recommend for a couple who are actually fairly well travelled, have been to some dodgy places in Asia and survived, and would like to enjoy ourselves, visit natural places, avoid he worst tourist traps and meet real people?

Start with Kenya if you want to see animals. They have a pretty good infrastructure for tourists and you can opt for pure luxury tented camps or you can really rough it. It is "real" Africa but with a touch of civilisation and organisation (although I use that word very loosely....).

Tanzania is just a drive across the border from Kenya and they have the Ngorongoro Crater which is def worth a look. Kenyan coast is magic (Malindi/Mombasa/Lamu) but very hot and sticky compared to Nairobi which is about 7,000 feet high and has a lovely climate.

Malawi is good - people are lovely. Amazing freshwater lake that looks like an ocean. Zimbabwe used to be good (see Victoria Falls) but I haven't been there for 10 years and it is probably a place to stay away from ATM. Swaziland - Fab.

I haven't been to Botswana, but apparently the Okavango Delta is awesome, and Namibia sounds fantastic.

Probably best to stay away from central & western Africa.

Get out there and explore some of - it is an unforgettable country.
17th January 2011, 08:24 AM
matbor

You would hate to have one of those tow trucks behind you with a load on them, those brakes aren't the best at the best of times... I guess that's why he has the spare gearbox in the back.... no brakes!

Nice pics.

Matt.
17th January 2011, 09:42 AM
Ace

I'd love to pack a 4wd and go on a long trip like the boys do in Long Way Down and Long Way Round. Would be awsome.

Africa would be a great place to trek around in.
17th January 2011, 04:14 PM
DiscoMick

Thanks for that. Yeah, it would be a great place to go for a wander around.
18th January 2011, 01:39 AM
BBC

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Originally Posted by spudboy

Start with Kenya if you want to see animals. They have a pretty good infrastructure for tourists and you can opt for pure luxury tented camps or you can really rough it. It is "real" Africa but with a touch of civilisation and organisation (although I use that word very loosely....).

Tanzania is just a drive across the border from Kenya and they have the Ngorongoro Crater which is def worth a look. Kenyan coast is magic (Malindi/Mombasa/Lamu) but very hot and sticky compared to Nairobi which is about 7,000 feet high and has a lovely climate.

Malawi is good - people are lovely. Amazing freshwater lake that looks like an ocean. Zimbabwe used to be good (see Victoria Falls) but I haven't been there for 10 years and it is probably a place to stay away from ATM. Swaziland - Fab.

I haven't been to Botswana, but apparently the Okavango Delta is awesome, and Namibia sounds fantastic.

Probably best to stay away from central & western Africa.

Get out there and explore some of - it is an unforgettable country.

DiscoMick,

Spudboy has given some good advice here.

Kenya can get very busy, best to avoid the Northern Hemisphere winter; they flood south at that time and it can be difficult to get bookings made, especially along the coast at Mombasa and down to Dar Es Salaam.

Mozambique has the most beautiful coastline I have yet to see...imagine the Queensland coast before it became developed. Many people are put off by the fact that 'Pork & Cheese' is their national language but believe me, there is enough English spoken to accommodate tourists...I think it helps keep the crowds away. Great seafood!!

Agree with Malawi and Mozambique shares a border with Malawi along near their lakes.

Zimbabwe is not as bad as what people perceive. A friend of mine goes back there almost every year and really rates the national parks and relishes the fact they are under-utilized and of course, there is Victoria Falls, a must see.

Swaziland, safe, quaint, clean, and beautiful.

Remember though, you may go to, and then leave Africa...but, Africa will never leave you.
18th January 2011, 08:58 AM
spudboy

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...Mozambique has the most beautiful coastline I have yet to see...imagine the Queensland coast before it became developed. Many people are put off by the fact that 'Pork & Cheese' is their national language but believe me, there is enough English spoken to accommodate tourists...I think it helps keep the crowds away. Great seafood!!

Agree with Malawi and Mozambique shares a border with Malawi along near their lakes.
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Hi BBC,

I did a drive down the Malawi/Mozambique border in an old Series II Landie about 20 years ago (the road was the border & it was a pretty slow drive....), with a nice old eye-surgeon I was working with who had the fabulous name of Moses Chirambo.

This is when FRELIMO (or was it RENAMO?) guerillas were still fighting in Mozambique.

On the Malawi side, there were little shops open, crops in the fields, and people wandering about just doing 'living' stuff. On the Mozambique side there were bombed out buildings, empty shops, no crops in the fields, and hardly and people walking around. Amazing what the difference of being on one side of a border or the other could have upon your life if you were a local person.

So - although I would have quite liked to go and see a bit of Mozambique, Moses suggested we stay in the Malawi side of the border, so I missed out on all that fabulous scenery etc. Pity, for sure.

Cheers
David
18th January 2011, 01:28 PM
BBC

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudboy

Hi BBC,

I did a drive down the Malawi/Mozambique border in an old Series II Landie about 20 years ago (the road was the border & it was a pretty slow drive....), with a nice old eye-surgeon I was working with who had the fabulous name of Moses Chirambo.

This is when FRELIMO (or was it RENAMO?) guerillas were still fighting in Mozambique.

On the Malawi side, there were little shops open, crops in the fields, and people wandering about just doing 'living' stuff. On the Mozambique side there were bombed out buildings, empty shops, no crops in the fields, and hardly and people walking around. Amazing what the difference of being on one side of a border or the other could have upon your life if you were a local person.

So - although I would have quite liked to go and see a bit of Mozambique, Moses suggested we stay in the Malawi side of the border, so I missed out on all that fabulous scenery etc. Pity, for sure.

Cheers
David

David

20 odd years ago, that was RENAMO and Malawi was supporting their existence.

Mozambique is still there awaiting your return.

Cheers,

BBC
20th January 2011, 12:53 AM
Ferret

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...011/01/192.jpg

Just back from ~3 weeks in Kenya / Tanzania today.

I heard if you boil some up and drink the residue it's good for all manner of tummy upsets. Elepants only digest about 30% of what they eat so there is lots of good chemically active ingredients from the plants they eat still in the dung. Makes my tummy upset thinking about it though.

I will post up a few pics of my adventures when I get sorted.

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