Thread: WHAT WERE THEY THINKING...

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

The little Eurojap whizzers might have impressive outputs on paper, but develop this from high boost and complication. A big simple slow revving engine sans electronics is what is needed for an outback rough usage vehicle. The little whizzers just don't cut the mustard when it comes down to hard work, heavy loads, and longevity. Not to mention the added maintenance to keep all the complication working in step. Even a turbocharger is un-necessary if you stick in a big enough engine to start with.

then you end up with the coomon rail diesel bull**** that needs ideal conditions or they play up something chronic

Originally Posted by Sprint

then you end up with the coomon rail diesel bull**** that needs ideal conditions or they play up something chronic

Whats wrong with common rail, it you get more out of the engine and you get great fuel economy. All you need to do is have a bit of an understanding of electronics and have basic computer savvy to fix it. Sometimes you have to move on, you can just have the same old stuff in an engine for years and years. A good example of that is the torque converter, that concept should have been replaced years ago, with a more efficient and useful alternative.

I don't see the arguement on motors.

I have a 2.25, a 4BD1 and a Td5. They are all different to drive and have their own merits. I think most of the problem is people can't adapt THEIR driving to suit the characteristics of the motor.

The Isuzu is a big lazy motor with alot of flywheel. The Td5 likes to spin. Try to drive one like the other and it won't work DUH Then you whinge that such and such is crap because of YOUR inability to adapt.

Electronics on a motor are just something people are going to have to get used to and learn new skills. Or should we have just stuck with the horse?
Times change, things change. Businesses are driven by markets, and the Australian one for LR is Buggerall. The heyday was 40 years ago, get over it.

Enjoy being one of the select few in the know in this country rather than hoping the masses will convert to your wisdom and reassure your ego's.

I'm sorry to all you patriots, but Europe is lightyears ahead of us. Especially in the area of progressive thinking and accepting new ideas. We are more than a little bit backward when it comes to that.

CC

And after all ,while on the subject holdern and ford has big engines but Euro small 2 ltrs that have more BHP and more power than 6 ltr V8 fords and Holderns. I drove my old bosses Falcon V8 which he had spent a fortune on Tweaking. And it was gut less compaired to a 2 ltr Renualt 21 Turbo my brother had or some of the other Euro hot hatches. I was really dissapointed . I have driven faster defenders

Oh come now!!!
All I can suggest is that your Boss's V8 was a sick puppy.
My son's BA GTP with cold air, twin exhausts, chip, and 4.1 diff would be doing under 5sec 0-100 and I reckon 12s.
I dunno but to me that is FAST.
It makes my M3 look tame and not many hair dryer Euros in that league.
Besides the Jap hair dryers are much better and at least last past the first service.
A good big one will beat a good little one every time.
Regard s Philip A

I've driven/ridden scores if not hundreds of engines with differing charcteristics; they can all be adapted to, but I don't have to like them

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Whats wrong with common rail, it you get more out of the engine and you get great fuel economy. All you need to do is have a bit of an understanding of electronics and have basic computer savvy to fix it. Sometimes you have to move on, you can just have the same old stuff in an engine for years and years. A good example of that is the torque converter, that concept should have been replaced years ago, with a more efficient and useful alternative.

just ask your local toyota service department how many issues theyve had with the new CRD hiluxes/landcruisers...... gone are the days where a landcruiser would run on any liquid that would burn, now it needs to be the freshest, virgin pure diesel you can find, or you're up for some VERY expensive repairs

The heat transfer in the hand brake.

Originally Posted by Reads90

mmm the problem is that Australia is such a small market for land rover that they don't really care what happens here, (after all 2 million more people live in London than live in the whole of Australia). After all untill Jan this year the British Army was the biggest buyer of Land Rovers in the world. Now Mike Street of SHB hire is the biggest buyer of land rovers in the world. He is an old freind In fact went out with his daughter for 2 years , he was telling me how they kiss his Ar*e when we were at the 60th due back in May at Gaydon. They call him up for meeting and run pretty mush everything by him and ask for his imput into new models. And all he does is hire out land rovers across the UK to contruction and builders, but buys more land rovers a month than Land Rover Australia do a year

Ali, each year it's a toss up between the Middle East and Australia on who is Toyota's biggest market for Land Crusiers, and Australia is easily the single biggest market for Nissan Patrols worldwide, particularly the cab chassis version, so the small market argument doesn't wash.

Small sales figures are the marketing/sales blokes problem, not the markets you are selling to.

WWTT ?