R.I.P Brocky . Also my hero :(.
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LOL too funny.. Mr fun police comes out today!!Quote:
I have to say that is just stupid at any age with other beach users around. Maybe acceptable if you were the only ones on the beach so could only take yourself out.
If I had been fishing on the beach with my family you could have rest assured you would not have been walking home and you V8 yota would have been in the surf.
You are lucky your mate did not fall out or you hit a fisherman cause you would be typing this from jail. Sand and speed are just to unprdictable in a poulated area.
Yes I have done some stupid things but never endangered others lives that did not consent to the activity.
there were no people on the beach.. just a few fishing in the surf.. as if you would do 160 on a crowded beach
At the end of the day it was fun:D
I don't think any of us are asking to go flat knacker in an SS, most of us just want to use our own brain and drive at a safe and comfortable speed. If you can only do 110kmh in your 110 then so be it, just keep to the BL#$DY left. My EL Fairmont was quite capable of sitting on 125kmh with the cruise on, and actually returned better fuel economy.
I just want to use my own judgement to drive safely and not worry every five minutes about being treated like a criminal for doing 5kmh over the posted limit.
What was wrong with the 10% rule anyway
Stu
Yeppa I was a big hoon.
But not now
there is a short bit of country road that we would Nail hard for fun, 80mph curves into a 2nd gear U nice camber etc. That was 20 years ago.
2 years ago I visited this old stamping ground in a rented V6 manual mondeo. the road hasn’t changed 1 bit, but the mondeo just cruised around at speeds that 20 years ago were all balls, Cars Have changed much, who hasn’t losed the back end of an HQ at some time, imposable to catch, modern cars just don’t do things like that. I think that is part of the problem. I remember reading once, a more capable 4X4 just means you are going to get stuck in a more inaccessible place. I think that the same applies to modern cars, they are more capable and when they do come unstuck its at such a higher speed, thus more damage.
The other thing was that my old country road is now lined with houses and 2 schools.
Any way ill stay with the isuzu, but if any one hits my wife and or mini me they will never need a license again.
Well put StuQuote:
I don't think any of us are asking to go flat knacker in an SS, most of us just want to use our own brain and drive at a safe and comfortable speed. If you can only do 110kmh in your 110 then so be it, just keep to the BL#$DY left. My EL Fairmont was quite capable of sitting on 125kmh with the cruise on, and actually returned better fuel economy.
I just want to use my own judgement to drive safely and not worry every five minutes about being treated like a criminal for doing 5kmh over the posted limit.
What was wrong with the 10% rule anyway
Stu
When I did my pilots license years ago No.1 rule was to 'fly to the conditions' .. use your head..don't spend all your time on the gauges
Same with driving a car..I spend half the time watching my speed limit as there are too many speed traps out there now.
But thats just how it is now I guess..
As a footnote to the discussion on P-plates above; driving into town today I came across a small sedan wrapped round a tree. A ute was stopped on the opposite side of the road, and I stopped to see if help was needed. The woman in the ute said no help was needed, the car belonged to her partner, and he was on his way out from hospital to get some things out of the car.
The car had red P-plates. That section of road is straight with a reasonable width of two lane bitumen. He had left the road to the right, and I'm guessing he got off the bitumen to the left (possibly dodging a roo last night) started to drift in the gravel, and lost it. I would also very much doubt he was below his red P-plate speed limit. Looking at the damage, he was lucky to survive, let alone be out of hospital that soon.
John
In regards to hoons and especially P plater crashes when exceeding the speed limit: I am actually a believer in the Darwin Awards philosophy, so long as they do remove themselves from the gene pool without taking anyone else along with them or being in the honourable mention category*.
Diana
* "honourable mention" Darwin Award category, the recipient doesn't die (and becomes a burdon on their family and the health system).
This is an interesting thread and there are many interesting replies.
There is no simple answer to what people regard as speeding. I have often ridden at more that 2.5 times the Victorian open speed limit, I often drive/ride well below the speed limit. It depends on the conditions of the road, weather, traffic or lack of etc that detirmines what is safe.
Innapropriate speed is what kills, as does lack of pateince, drinking and just plain bad luck.
It seems that most people have different skill levels and perceptions of the road conditions and a slow 100 kph to one person may be stuidly fast too another.
To make it easy for the government to administer and determine they set a speed limit which we are supposed to stick to. Personally I think that limit is way too low on many roads but it would be almost impossible to test everyone and determine each persons skill level and set them a limit and it would be impossible to police unless each driver had some sort of identification on the car that the police could see easily.
Interestingly,
I know as a fact that Victorian Freeways were designed for a minimum of 140 kph as I had an engineer freind who worked for VicRoads who helped design them.
Ian