What was he thinking?

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Originally Posted by Dorko

Well, last weekend my mates and i went 4WDing to Pipidinny. We had a absolute blast unlike this idiot!

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Pippidiny beach is closed to vehicles!!!!
City of Wanneroo dont let vehicles on their beaches,well atleast they didnt when I lived in Quinns Rocks and Guilderton.
First LEGAL 4x4 beach North of Perth is Wilbinga(Shire of GinGin)
Andrew

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Umm, so Dorko was in the wrong, too? :confused:

I think so Ron.
UNLESS the beach has been opened to 4x4s in the last 15 years.Its just on the edge of suburbia so I doubt it.
Andrew

I'm with Dorko.I had to cut my holiday in the vic alps short once saving a prado owner,I towed him for 14 very long hours and he didn't even say thankyou.Wrecked my holiday,wrecked my snatch strap and used a tank of fuel,when the RACQ arrived they put him and his family into a hotel and they didn't even look back.I would help any one in need regardless who they are but if they act like those two I'll walk away. Pat

I had no idea that Pipidinny was illegal to 4WD. :o Heaps of people go there, and the main access point is open like a 24/7 store.

I must google this. I like that place, great place to have a bbq and easy 4wding.

Dorko

Im with you on this one mate.
I reckon your 1st responsibility is to yourself, your people and your truck. If you don't like the odds - walk away.
Same goes for the rescue - he needs your help, therefore the recovery is on your terms only. Its done your way or again - walk away.
He may well have learnt a harsh and expensive lesson. Listen to thy lady.

Absolutely.

If it had gone pear-shaped and your vehicle was damaged, his insurance wouldn't have covered you. The insurance company wouldn't want to know you.

One would only continue to help if someone's life was in danger.

He has to take responsibility if he was unwilling to even try a recovery.

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Originally Posted by tony

Wasn't there, so really can't comment on this situation but ....and its a big but... that depends on the owner of the stuck vehicles full cooperation, I would never leave a vehicle stuck on the beach or in the bush weather i know them or not...

not having a dig at you but its not something I would do....

If as it appearers in this case the owner was very in experienced I would have tried to explain fully all the options open to him, including me driving his vehicle and hopefully reached a satisfying and vehicle un-stuck conclusion

T

I have just read the above and I sound like a pompas rectum....so in answer to the post in Tony speak no you should never leave someone stuck....it might be you one day

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I can see this happening & knowing Tony & Panda reasonably well know that they'd take more time than mere mortals to get it out. Far more patience than what I'd have to tell the truth. Dorko has still gone above & beyond IMO what is reasonable when faced with this dill who drove like he had big balls but when put to the test was a whimpering twit.

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Originally Posted by Dorko

Yeah thats fair enough... but i did offer to take him back to Yachnep for some proper recover help. He wanted to stay with the car...

At the end of the day his choices put him there. I offered the help with out putting me or my car in danger/damage. The last thing i wanted was to be attached to his car if it rolled. He might sue me for damages.... I'm not putting my self in that situation.

I guess if you got $65k to throw around buying a new 4WD trying to save someone else... you must have more money than brains....

This situation wasnt a simple snatch... it had huge risks involved in all angles.

But i do respect what you are saying... :)

Dorko

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I do this stretch regularly and you see it all the time. I have had people, particularly in Toyotas, pull up somewhere we have stopped on the beach to fish etc, ask me what its like further up, tell them, "Dont go there mate, you get in trouble, its well soft with fresh tidal dump sand..." only to drive past later thru the dunes and see them stuck on the beach exactly where you told them not to go.
I have seen a brand new Sahara with the axles buried and the tide up to the windows because some weekend tosser warrior has taken the rest of his family for a spin up the beach to show them how much of... as it turned out... a tosser he was by going for a "quick splash" in the water only to sink in tide dump and have it bogged for good!

If I warn someone, its their decision not to listen and my decision not to help.

Anyone else, no problem, will do the best I can no matter what they drive.
Think thats more than fair........

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I'm with Dorko.I had to cut my holiday in the vic alps short once saving a prado owner,I towed him for 14 very long hours and he didn't even say thankyou.Wrecked my holiday,wrecked my snatch strap and used a tank of fuel,when the RACQ arrived they put him and his family into a hotel and they didn't even look back.I would help any one in need regardless who they are but if they act like those two I'll walk away. Pat

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Dont blame you,i know a guy who owns a property at orchid beach on Fraser island.Not very often he will help anyone if they are stuck anymore for 3 main reasons
1...They wont let their tyres down & have no idea what they are doing
2....they have nearly always been drinking
3...His mate got down to take the snatch strap off a vehicle,he had just recovered ,the vehicle rolled back and hit him in the head.He was dead before the careflight helicopter arrived.

i could swear i saw a prado floating in the ocean yesterday avo :wasntme:

cheers