Medical Type Question

**JohnF** · 2nd April 2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

Did you watch Slunnies little video then? As to why Seventh Day Adventists have better hearts than most of us?.... very interesting

No I do not know that video and will search for it if no one gives me a link. I have and read a book called "How you can live six extra years" by Lewis Walton and Dr. Jo Walton plus another author whose name I forget [I am not at home and so do not have access to this book today]. I do have that book home in my Library. Another book with these Statistics is "How to Survive the 80's" also by Lewis Walton. I saw that second hand in a op-shop at Tweed Heads this week. Those books give these published statistics from Medical Surveys on Seventh-day Adventists that were funded by the United States Government, though not the examples of George Rollo, etc. that I gave in my post.
In the early 1960's George Rollo taught a group of youth to Abseil and I was in that group of youth at a youth camp at Crosslands, north of Sydney. So I occasionally noted George Rollo's career after that time. While visiting Sydney I was in a meeting where he spoke at 83 years of age.
He use to celebrate his birthday by running a mile for every year of his life, but at around 70 years of age he slowed down to running a kilometer for every year of his life. I said hello after that meeting and asked if he still ran and he told me what I put in the post.
I was a Pathology Technician and had looked up statistics on Seventh-day Adventist health in medical Journals in University Libraries and Concord Repat Hospital Medical Library, for a TAFE Advanced Microbiology assignment. Had to do a talk on Microbiology for that TAFE subject, and I looked at the Bible as the World's Oldest Microbiology Text-book. I did win a book of Henry Lawson Short stories for that talk on Microbiology and the Bible, showing slides of Yaws--which is possibly the Bible Leprosy, etc. And I used some of these Medical Journal Statistics on Seventh-day Adventist health in my talk. So that, not the video was my source. I do want to see that video one day when I have head Phones with me. Thanks for your question.

**Diego Luego** · 2nd April 2009, 12:30 PM

Anyone reading this please don't believe that you can unblock arteries with "Angioprim". Despite the clever advertising and "It worked for me" references, there is not a shred of evidence that it is effective.

It belongs in the same basket as pills you put into your gas tank to improve performance by 50%.... It is pure junk.

Chelation therapy does have some uses, but unblocking arteries is not one of them. You might as well spray WD40 onto your arthritis or remove skin cancers with car polish and a buffer.

But go and get an ECG, I did and it saved my life.

**29dinosaur** · 2nd April 2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Diego Luego

Anyone reading this please don't believe that you can unblock arteries with "Angioprim". Despite the clever advertising and "It worked for me" references, there is not a shred of evidence that it is effective.

It belongs in the same basket as pills you put into your gas tank to improve performance by 50%.... It is pure junk.

Chelation therapy does have some uses, but unblocking arteries is not one of them. You might as well spray WD40 onto your arthritis or remove skin cancers with car polish and a buffer.

But go and get an ECG, I did and it saved my life.

So - is it possible to 'degrease' your arteries with diet? How about judicious use of red wine??

**fclandy** · 2nd April 2009, 12:53 PM

Like everyone says, get it checked. On a couple of occasions I've had strong pain in the chest that wouldn't go away after stretching, relaxing, taking painkillers etc. Went to the doc, got rushed through and hooked up. ECG, blood tests, even a treadmill stress test. Fortunately, all clear. Was told it was 'pre-cardial snatch of Asher' - after the guy that identified it, and the way it makes you grab at the front of your chest.

As for diet, sometimes it seems like the world's best kept non-secret that a wide variety of foods with less processing and additives, easy on the fat, salt and sugar, and plenty of plain old water is much closer to the mark than fanatical consumption of a small number of 'wonder' foods or 'miracle' additives, vitamins, antioxidants or what-have-you.

**landoz** · 2nd April 2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by CapeLandy

Not sure of what an MBT is but I was talking MTB (Mountain Bike)
Don't smoke and no family heart problems - most relatives on me mums side made 100 years old.
Slunnie - things are looking up as your description are none familiar symptoms to what I had. Just one slight squeeze in the chest and went away and did'nt come back.
Lets see what the quack says in 2 hours time.

Sorry, Misread MtB with MBTs (Masai Boot Technology) - they are fantastic shoes that one wears when trying to correct posture, strenghten lower limbs and abdominal muscles.... not great for walking up a steep hill as they REALLY make you work. Cost a bomb - but it works.

My mate has told me that another great indication - something wrong is when Percy does not work!!!

But don't wait till then

So what did the Doc. say?

**sashadidi** · 3rd April 2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by landoz

Sorry, Misread MtB with MBTs (Masai Boot Technology) - they are fantastic shoes that one wears when trying to correct posture, strenghten lower limbs and abdominal muscles.... not great for walking up a steep hill as they REALLY make you work. Cost a bomb - but it works.

My mate has told me that another great indication - something wrong is when Percy does not work!!!

But don't wait till then

So what did the Doc. say?

In the heath side of things and lots of mountain running,climbing biking etc and noticed with a few people over the years the following and I stress if not a heart problem , it could be posture leading back misalignment which can misalign your ribs leads to spasms in the muscle between ribs may feel like a heart problem, heard of this several times, if all clear with a dr see a chiropractor to be checked out for alignment etc

**CapeLandy** · 3rd April 2009, 07:36 PM

No wories, all checked out and the ticker is working fine.
Doc said if I had eaten a little time before going on the ride it might have been a little reflux which gives similar feeling in the chest.
Good to go but at the same time had a small fat lump that was bothering me cut out the back of my leg so I am off the bike for at least a week.
Feels like I got kicked in the back of the leg by a horse.
Thanks for all your concern even though I am S.African

**PhilipA** · 3rd April 2009, 07:50 PM

Went to the dentist yesterday and he said that oral hygiene is the best defence against heart disease.

Gingevitis ( gum disease) is directly linked to heart disease due to the strain it puts on the rest of the system.

So brush your teeth bucky and you can run up large hills at 60 like me .
Regards Philip A

**George130** · 3rd April 2009, 08:48 PM

Tickle in the ticker can be the heart having trouble.

I had as I put it a stich in the chest back in Jan while driving from home back to the hospital in Caberra. At the time I decided that it was odd but I didn't have time for problems and push on through. Once the 5 day stint with Liam in hospital was over it took me a week to recover any sort of energy. GP check up showed all was ok but his diagnosis was stress attack. He said it was a warning to be more carefull.

**sashadidi** · 4th April 2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by CapeLandy

This question is directed to anyone in the medical profession:

I was wondering yesterday as I was climbing a really steep mountain path on my MTB that I have been on since I was 18, at what age should one stop pushing your body and heart to the maximum.
At 37 I dont feel any different going up these hills but sometimes I get just a slight little "cramp" that feels like it's in the ticker.
Maybe the body is telling me to take the easier route to the top or am I just being a sissy.

Any of the medical guru's with some sound advice.

Rgds

Costochondritis?

James

Costochondritis

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