I think you may be onto something. Maybe holden and ford could get tax exempt status, as religious idols. Maybe this is the way to save the Australian car industry ;)
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You know this thread is disturbing. Sure a bit of fun is great and organized religion in general is great to pick on as it's a mess, but the bullying attitude I've seen as I've read through all the pages is sad...I don't care what someone believes, but I strongly believe we should respect them for it and [so long as they don't seek to cause physical harm to others] support their right to believe and tell others about it no matter how "dumb" or "crazy" it may seem to us. Because the bottom line is if the tables were turned we'd want the same.
This is the Australian way. Sadly it seems to me that we're fast loosing it. :( Or is it because this is an internet forum and you can remain to a degree "anonymous"?
Tolerance is a two-way street - make it one-way and you have a dictatorship.
I'm not out to win friends or make enemies...none of what I've said above is directed at anyone specifically. :)
we are all going to HELL and below is why.
Hell Explained By Chemistry Student
The following is an actual question given on a
University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The
answer by one student was so "profound" that the
professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet,
which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of
enjoying it as well.
Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or
endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs
using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats
when it is compressed) or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is
changing in time.
So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving
into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I
think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets
to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are
leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at
the different religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a
member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since
there is more than one of these religions and since
people do not belong to more than one religion, we can
project that all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect
the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.
Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in
Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the
temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the
volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls
are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate
at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and
pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks
loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the
increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and
pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa
during my Freshman year that, "it will be a cold day
in Hell before I sleep with you, and take into account
the fact that I slept with her last night, then number
two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is
exothermic and has already frozen over.
The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has
frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any
more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only
Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being
which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting
"Oh my God."
THIS STUDENT RECEIVED THE ONLY "A"
I am a Christian, and perhaps a little bit radical. However I believe the Bible teaches freedom of conscience, hence if someone wants to mock God, and worship Dawkin's Evolutionary ideas or worship the non-existant flying spaggetti monster it is their right, as the True God does not force religion [any religion that is forced is not the worship of the True God of the Bible.] I actually have written a self published booklet "Freedom of Conscience under threat" that argues that a person has a right to believe how their conscience dictates, even if they are an Athiest or Buddhist, or Hindu or Catholic or Protestant.
So I believe the originator of this thread has the right to think this way even if he is wrong and offends some people. But I know his thinking is wrong, but say he has a right to think this way.
I find your post deeply offensive. You are calling my deity of choice nonexistent. Yet you try to say you are tolerant of other beliefs to yours???
You also say you "know" I am wrong. Which I also find highly offensive, as it assumes that your beliefs are somehow superior to mine?
Your post also excludes many alternate beliefs, such as - people who believe in multiple gods or deities.
For example, Jainism:
samuelclarke - I agree completely with everything you say. I started this thread as I percieved that there was an imbalance in the religious views being expressed (in otherwise irrelevant) topics. (however I must say I do not take kindly to people waking me up early in the morning on the weekend to tell me their religious views)Quote:
Jainism differs from other religions in its concept of God. Jainism regards every living soul as potentially divine. When the soul sheds its karmic bonds completely, it attains God-consciousness. It prescribes a path of non-violence to progress the soul to this ultimate goal.
It is interesting to note though, that those who have openly claimed to be christian seem the least tolerant and least able to handle alternate views being discussed on an equal footing.
As I stated at the start - I would prefer if we left our respective (and equally valid) belief systems out of the forum. However if not, a balanced representation of beliefs should be present.
In case anyone cares, I am a big fan of Father Bob: http://www.fatherbob.com.au/
And I can thoroughly reccommend that you listen to his radio show on JJJ.
John Saffran vs GOD is also a good watch.
NB - these are my own personal opinions/beliefs and people should feel free to ignore them.
EDIT: I am not trying to make friends or annoy anyone as well. Just discuss Land Rover related issues with other enthusiasts. And go camping/4x4ing as much as possible.
Iam also not trying to make friends or annoy anyone, but i find it hard to believe in any sort of God when in our world there are people such as terrorist bombers that think its ok to blow up a subway or plane because their god tells them to, is that in "Gods greater plan" ?
Regards Adrian
I'd just like to say I'm not offended by anything in this thread.
You're welcome to mock whichever of my beliefs you like. You can even mock my avatar too if you like, it's very similar to my god.
Something some guy has written on some forum is not going to stop me sleeping at night. I'm interested in other opinions but ultimately, don't care. I don't think god exists. If you do, even if you *know*, fine, I don't find your views offensive any more than the fact you've chosen a different meal tonight to eat.
Everything else is fair game for a bit of a poke, why not religion?
That said I'd hate to see people get offended over this thread and leave the forum.
JohnF,
I note you live in Nimbin. That really is God's country.:)
I think I saw God their once! :o
But subsequently had an urgent craving for a pizza.:angel:
Why this thread is here and not in the SOAPBOX forum :confused: ?