Thread: HR help - Stupid CV's

Originally Posted by Tusker

Because it helps build a picture about you. What makes you tick, whether you'll fit in with everyone else.

Most candidates volunteer this stuff in my experience. Gaps & withheld information are fatal. The assumption has to be you're hiding something.

And I've never had it happen, but if anyone quoted anti-discrimination laws at me in an interview, well I doubt it would be a fruitful working relationship.

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Max P

It is illegal to request or use discriminatory information. Full stop.

What more do you need to know?

Would you like to be stood up in court before a QC and asked why you used or requested illegal discriminatory information?


Got good mortgage insurance? Check the fine print. See you down the caravan park.

The information only becomes discriminatory if used in that manner. There are many other benign uses for such information. Good luck in front of the QC Brian just tell him its all about the vibe........oh and the conspiracy theory.

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

The information only becomes discriminatory if used in that manner. There are many other benign uses for such information. Good luck in front of the QC Brian just tell him its all about the vibe........oh and the conspiracy theory.

My understanding from recruitment training courses is that you may not request or use discriminatory information. It is an offence against Commonwealth legislation to do so.

Use it at your peril. There are plenty of precedents. Most corporations will turn their back on you. They will say they have protocols, training, and policy in place to ensure their staff obey the law. The unwritten understanding may be that their managers employ no geriatrics, blacks, poofs, etc. but they will never admit it and YOU will be the scapegoat.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

My understanding from recruitment training courses is that you may not request or use discriminatory information. It is an offence against Commonwealth legislation to do so.

Use it at your peril. There are plenty of precedents. Most corporations will turn their back on you. They will say they have protocols, training, and policy in place to ensure their staff obey the law. The unwritten understanding may be that their managers employ no geriatrics, blacks, poofs, etc. but they will never admit it and YOU will be the scapegoat.

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Bypassed

There is no need for anyone to put their date of birth on a job application. In Australia it is illegal to even ask for this information. This is the same for are they a smoker? These are just 2 examples there are plenty of others.

If you are worried about age discrimination do not forget to leave out of your CV the years you attended school. This is a dead give away that many forget about.

Where you are dealing through a recruitment agency the CV will be fairly generic as that is how the poorer ones work. They farm CV's and send them off to employers on the basis that if you chuck enough mud some will stick sales method. The better ones work with you and help you customise your CV for the position then coach you on the employer and the interviewer so you are presented in the best light. The latter earn their commission and you are left feeling it was worth it.

Another key thing you need to be ready for is the questions based on experience - give examples of when you did - handled - solved etc. These are usually from the HR person. They are looking for key words and relevant / transferable experience examples. It is intended to weed out those applicants who can talk but do not know. Be ready though as if you cannot give good examples no matter how well the interview went you will not be offer a job.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

It is illegal to request or use discriminatory information. Full stop.

What more do you need to know?

Would you like to be stood up in court before a QC and asked why you used or requested illegal discriminatory information?


Got good mortgage insurance? Check the fine print. See you down the caravan park.

Steady on.

I didn't say I asked for it. I did say in my experience most candidates volunteer it.

Like it or not, gaps & withheld information are fatal. That's the reality.

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