Thread: Speed and red light cameras banned in US

Sad fact is, a licence is not a certificate of competency.
Speeds Camera's and safety camera's which is what we have in Victoria,
generate revenue, driver education costs money.

is driver education provided to the public free of charge though?

Originally Posted by Sprint

is driver education provided to the public free of charge though?

no, they pay that in their insurance policies. or we that insure pay it for them.

Some years ago, a US state banned radar detectors and the State Police started hauling offenders into court. This stopped when the state's senior judge started dismissing charges. His published reasoning was that if any government in a democracy indulges in covert surveillance of the citizens, said government should not be surprised when the citizens take steps to become aware of any such surveillance.

I had a driver in my Bus get pinged by a speed camera.
I filled out the Stat Dec and passed it over to him to fill out his details which he did, he also paid the fine.
Months later I received a letter telling me I had lost points for the infringement. I rang the department responsible and they sent me a form to have the points returned to my license and taken off the other guys.
Surprise surprise, after due consideration the appeal was rejected on insufficient grounds and I lose the points.
What ****es me off is that even though the points are eventually regained, the stain stay on my record.
If a copper had pulled him over and booked him, end of story.

In NSW, the RTA are a law unto themselves.

One might get pinged, fined, and get demerit points but take it to court and have the charge dismissed.

The RTA, however, won't return your lost points. Thus, you may still lose your licence!

Motorists being driven into road rage - Metro & Regional - National - General - Queensland Country Life

The other extraordinary anomaly with the demerit scheme is that, even if a motorist goes to court and has the driving offence dismissed under Section 10 (1) of the Crimes Act, only the fine is quashed. The RTA still imposes the demerit points and the licence is still lost.

See also: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pro.../LA20040507014

It appears that courts in New South Wales have fewer powers than the RTA. It seems that once the RTA has decided to penalise an offender its ruling stands, regardless of the outcome of a legal appeal against the penalty imposed. I am a strong advocate of safe driving, and believe that we need a strong system of fines, demerit points and driver rewards to encourage and enforce good driver behaviour. I would certainly never advocate a passenger travelling in a vehicle without a seatbelt. However, I find it incredible that the RTA demerit points remain against a driver's name even when the court has found the driver was not responsible for his passengers not wearing a seatbelt. This young man has lost more than his driving freedom: he has lost his job. This situation will have a very negative impact on his future.

Comon, we all know that speed cameras etc are mainly for revenue raising, no surprises there. And true too that, when approaching an intersection, people will set their eyes on the speedo rather than the traffic in front!

Originally Posted by Gold_TD5

........and safety camera's which is what we have in Victoria,
generate revenue, driver education costs money.

And the moon is made of green cheese.

It's a wonder there aren't more accidents in the under Yarra tunnels. You're so busy watching the speedo, and not the traffic on the down hill stretches it's amazing more people havn't been killed.

'Road safety cameras' my ar.................... er foot.

Deano