Thread: Are you flying tomorrow?

worth every cent they get paid I reckon,,,

I'll fly with the guy at 1.10 any time!!


Thanks Arthur

Some amazing aeroplane driving there! I'm glad I don't have to do it!

Willem

I remember our flight from Port Macquarie to Sydney on one of the “crop dusters” back in 1994 after our bike accident.
The weather was shocking in Sydney with very strong side winds; we were seating on the front row and were able to see the cockpit and the approach to landing.
Awesome! The plane was complete out of line in relation to the landing line and the plane was moving left and right with force however the pilot controlled the plane very well on the last 50 meters or so and we landed without dramas.
One thing that brought us to the attention was that the copilot was reading the book with the proceedings landing when the Capitan was approaching landing. I guess that are the rules but at that moment you have the bad feeling that one of them are “learning by the

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

Garry your comment is interesting.
I just wonder what kin of options have the DH8 Capitan regarding optional airports considering the range of the DH8 and the weather conditions on that time on the east coast of NSW.
I am not a pilot but I have the feeling that landing in Sydney in our flight from Port Macquarie was very close to be on the edge of the capabilities of the plane. It was very close to missed the runway

Originally Posted by garrycol

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

Nah they are professional pilots. Bit rough to comment on the pilots skills when you are not there in the situation.

Camo

Originally Posted by garrycol

Have to agree that there is some good flying there - however most of it displays poor airmanship and in most cases the aircraft or the landing gear would have been overstressed on landing. In the majority of those clips, the cross wind component clearly exceeds the safe flight envelope of the aircraft and the prudent approach would have been to request a better runway, wait for better conditions or divert to the selected diversion.

It is just not worth risking the aircraft and passengers to make the schedule.

A number of aircraft I have flown have subsequently crashed due to excessive cross winds and the attitude that "we can get in".

Garry

I think a couple of those B777 shots would be test flights.

I tend to agree Garry, but often that crosswind can pick up at the last minute. The shot of the KLM at the old Hong Kong airport is a classic case - there is no option.

I am always impressed how strong undercarriage is, even watching the small Piper 28s smash it down with 25knots of crosswind it is amazing how they don't collapse.

Good video nonetheless - thanks.

Looking at some of those landings makes me thankful that Hong Kongs Kai Tak is now closed.

Deano