Thread: This has got to worry Sydneysiders.

it appears that there is a fair bit of bs on youtub; and a concerted effort to discredit the chinese auto industry...

What difference will it make using chinese labour to build NSW trains as opposed to using Aus labour and the same chinese components to build the trains we run now? Surely the driver could stop the service before they hit the concrete barrier. Hopefully they are capable enough, it's not as if they have to steer the train or anything.

Just out of interest I wonder how many chinese components, steel or other products go into building a modern day RR.

Think I'll take the swine infested public transport, don't want one of the ABS, power steering or brake components failing or it might throw me into a concrete wall.

Originally Posted by one_iota

I am a Sydneysider....

What is the relevance of a train built to Australian specifications in China to a van running into a wall?...

I like the train and am impressed with the fact that the driver has no window to look through, maybe they have taken the driver out and it is actually a Suburban Drone with a remote operator working from a game consol under Public Service standards!

Regarding trains built in China to Australian standards - my guess it's no different to Qantas aeroplanes maintained in China to Boeing standards or Qantas turbofan engines being overhauled in China to GE, RR or Pratt & Whitney standards. Both those scenarios are currently happening every day and Qantas aircraft that have had major maintence in China are on Qantas routes today.

Anyone want to fly Singapore Airlines?

Diana

We're whinging about Chinese build quality... anyone done a forum search on "Puma" lately?

Originally Posted by 87County

it appears that there is a fair bit of bs on youtub; and a concerted effort to discredit the chinese auto industry...

No that's just plain wrong. In European crash testing of Chinese imported cars they have received some of the worst results ever achieved in those tests. See one example here.

Building cars that protect their occupants in crashes is an incredibly complex science and it's one that the Chinese are yet to master. However I note that their intended acquisition of some distressed euro brands is clearly an attempt to buy this knowledge.

I'd like to add,that train will withstand a holden 202 red motor hitting the front of it at 40km/hr,I know this for a fact as I worked on that project and I personally bought the motor and dropped it from the side of the factory wall on a length of cable into the facia.They are getting made in china because not one of the Australian companys involved could build them.It is the most bungled contract this side of the Seasprite debarcle. Pat

Originally Posted by malsgoing130

read in the Sunday times motoring here in WA a week or so ago that the motor Journo was very upset to hear that the Great Walls Motor (GWM) Ute has no air bags and ASR. He confidently stated that this was the only vehicle that was to be sold in Aus without the above mentioned saftey gear. Luckily he forgot the DEFENDER. I think people have gone mad, up till a couple of years ago not one single utility was offered with an air bag never mind ABS, There must be millions of them driving around right now.

Would be nice though after having seen some Defers involved in smashes if they came with a roll cage, might be something to put on the list?

regards Mal
PS the VW looked to be doing 100+ to make it "crumple" like that. I have unfortunitly seen alot of them that were involved in smashes in Seth Efrika and they hold up a little better than that.

There has been a study on actual crash's in Europe and the defender was the safest vehicle on the road.I is on this forum somewhere. Pat

I remember reading something about that video of the Commodore crashing, maybe it didnt have a chassis or something as they wanted to test the strength of the bodywork alone in a head-on collision.