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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    Staying off topic....
    I know there is a scientific basis behind modern design, but the over riding factor in modern cars is weight and cost.
    I can't believe how weak most modern cars are, particularly small ones, even the ones that get 5 star NCAP ratings.

    You do need to dissipate energy, but you can have all the crumple zones, abs and airbags you want -
    They're not much use when the engine block is sitting on your lap, or the rear seats are kissing the dashboard.
    What makes you think they are weak? If it's dintability that doesn't surprise me. Their strength is in their structure and choice of materials which can't be seen.

    Have a watch of these two.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ygYUYia9I"]YouTube - Fifth Gear Crash-test Volvo 940 estate vs Renault Modus[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8dHYAIhZ4"]YouTube - Fifth Gear: 4x4 Crash Test[/ame]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    What makes you think they are weak?
    The following factors are some:
    Dintability & ease of damage
    Seeing damage and injuries from accidents
    Crashing vehicles myself, either single vehicle, or into others
    Damage after other vehicles bounced off mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    The following factors are some:
    Dintability & ease of damage
    Seeing damage and injuries from accidents
    Crashing vehicles myself, either single vehicle, or into others
    Damage after other vehicles bounced off mine
    Good work Human Crash Dummy (please don't take offense at the dummy part)!!! We should call you [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Patrick"]Lawrence Patrick[/ame] from now on

    What 5 star car were you in when you had a big prang?
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    I enjoy reading posts like this one as it tends to highlight how the mentality of the human race is ever changing.
    I can remember when we bought cars to drive from point to point rather than to be safe to crash. I doubt if we even thought of having a crash.
    I can remember when the driver was the one responsible for the shortcomings in road accidents rather than an ABS failure or a malfunction of the cornering enhancement device.
    I can remember when we were saying exactly the same things about the quality of Japanese products as we are about Chinese ones today.
    I can remember when the ratio of fatal accidents wasn't as high as it is today. Granted there are more cars on the road but the roads have white lines and are even bitumen sealed nowadays and a damn sight safer!
    I can also remember when a "state of the art" motor car of the day cost about 400 quid and we used to get 32 Miles to the Gallon regularly (about 9l/100k).
    But I suppose we have progressed a lot since then, or have we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Good work Human Crash Dummy (please don't take offense at the dummy part)!!! We should call you Lawrence Patrick from now on

    What 5 star car were you in when you had a big prang?
    Lol, Mr Patrick certainly suffered for his science.

    I've just been lucky, very stupid (in my younger days), but lucky.

    Hmm cars I've crashed, had major crashes in
    P76's (crashed 3 of them, rolled one, it's still registered and now in pristine condition)
    Mazda 323 (was my Mothers) rolled and totalled
    Gemini - left the road doing 100k's, down a 10m embankment and flew for about 30m (sisters car )
    Couple of bingles in the D1 & D2 too
    To name a few.....

    Been co-pilot in some ridiculous accidents too..
    XA Falcon rear ended a bus
    Valiant ute, through an equestrian fence and stable wall
    P76 t-boned by a Hino truck
    Nissan Pulsar nose to tailed and squashed
    Nissan Maxima tboned after some knob sailed through a stop sign

    Have only been in one accident on a road bike though, thanks to someone who thought they'd pull an immediate U turn on a major road without indicating or braking
    Maybe I should be called Lawrence.
    Even though there were others, I've never been injured in an accident.

    I have broken just about every bone, joint, ligament and tendon playing footy though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Well while we're posting fun crash tests then... this is a personal favourite...
    Quote Originally Posted by stooge View Post
    The commodore makes the chinese van look like a 5 star safety rating!
    Yet another incorrectly titled "crash" test. Pig's @rse it's a Commodore! Sure the tail lights resemble an 80s era one but that's about it.

    One of my favourites is this one for the, once again Chinese made, Brilliance...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHZqcKj7jNM"]YouTube - Brilliance BS6 Chinese Car Crash Test Disaster[/ame]

    Further searches explained that there were major modifications made to the car following these tests to improve safety and another one was uploaded...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPw26Nfze_Q"]YouTube - Brilliance BS6 - new 3-star crashtest[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    Gemini - left the road doing 100k's, down a 10m embankment and flew for about 30m (sisters car )
    It's a lot harder to crash test the models that have the flight capability package installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    ........Anyone want to fly Singapore Airlines?

    Diana

    I assume you know Singapore is about as close to China as Perth is to Sydney?

    xenophobes need not apply thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    I can't believe how weak most modern cars are, particularly small ones, even the ones that get 5 star NCAP ratings.
    Guys who work for a local towing coy. tell me there are a few small cars they won't pick up with a hook truck. Apparently they sag a bit and doors, bonnet, boot etc. won't open. Don't know if this is an urban myth but they believe it and always send a tilt tray for certain makes/models. They reckon some of these cheap little jiggers are not much more than a plastic bag being towed around by the front wheel drive powertrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    Guys who work for a local towing coy. tell me there are a few small cars they won't pick up with a hook truck. Apparently they sag a bit and doors, bonnet, boot etc. won't open. Don't know if this is an urban myth but they believe it and always send a tilt tray for certain makes/models. They reckon some of these cheap little jiggers are not much more than a plastic bag being towed around by the front wheel drive powertrain.
    Easy to spot, the airbags are listed as a structural member.

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