Who the heck would vote "Yes"?

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Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

sorry to go for a 3rd reply so quick.
but i will take my chances of avoiding an out of control car at 60k/h any day over trying to avoid a car that is speeding in the same area. i am a defensive driver, have been all of my 25 driving years, and guess what, only ever had 1 accident, and that was due to someone rear ending me in stop start traffic on the freeway. and guess what, he was going too fast for the conditions. very difficult to be defensive when you got nowhere to go. so yes, i understand you can get killed driving under the speed limit.
the only saving grace for those speeders that do have accidents is you are more likely to die in a high speed accident and not have to face up to it. thats harsh i know, but its how i feel

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Ah....so we agree then? :BigThumb:


Just to expand the issue IMHO is that governments and their advertising enforces the point that if you are not speeding i.e. obey the law, you will be safe on the roads. That is just nonsense. What all governments should be doing is to create a culture of avoiding accidents full stop, not just avoiding the severity of an accident.

Unfortunately governments are not interested in the road toll e.g. hostile electorate/change fines & demerit points.....so there is no chance of any government introducing proper education/driving standards or even raising the bar to remove the lowest common denominator from our roads.

Governments are more interested in trying to lower the road toll through your hip pocket.

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Lyndon.

Discovery Td5.....Enjoy responsibly.

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Originally Posted by feral

Unfortunately governments are not interested in the road toll e.g. hostile electorate/change fines & demerit points.....so there is no chance of any government introducing proper education/driving standards or even raising the bar to remove the lowest common denominator from our roads.

Governments are more interested in trying to lower the road toll through your hip pocket.

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Lyndon.

Discovery Td5.....Enjoy responsibly.

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yeah and unfortunately we don't have a valid alternative to the 2 party system and therefore we just keep voting back in the same sort of govt we continually complain about :confused:

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Originally Posted by dullbird

red 'P' 90kph
Green 'P' 100khp
Full 110kph.

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I did my initial driving in South Australia and unless things have changed it is different there.

No green "P" plates, only red ones. !00 kph restriction on P plates, full 110 kph where allowed. L plates restricted to 80 kph.

Basically they are saying if you can reverse park (driving test...) then you are safe to 100. If you are safe to 100 for a year or so then you are OK at 110 kph.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

I have never understood why learner drivers are limited to 80 kph (I assume they still are), but when you get your P plates you can do 100 kph. Surely it would be better to get experience with an instructor on board.
As far as growing up in the country is concerned, all the coutry people I know were all driving long before they were let loose on the roads, so were a lot more competent than "city" learners.

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agree with you on both counts there, but unfortunatley we live in the real world, not some imaginary world where everything is as we wish it was. the reality is that p platers are on our roads with not enough experience, so instead of complaining about the individual p platers, why not have a thought about why they are there without the neccesary driving skills. some of those guys and gals do the right thing by not driving over their ability at speed. sorry for you if you are held up by someone that wants to be driving safe, but at least you are both alive.

There has been a lot of money spent on brainwashing here. It shows that if you control the media you control the people.

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Originally Posted by Rosscoe68

sorry for you if you are held up by someone that wants to be driving safe, but at least you are both alive.

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Getting held up by bloody caravan drivers is enough to cause road rage and dangerous driving.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Getting held up by bloody caravan drivers is enough to cause road rage and dangerous driving.

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:p :p :p

If you want to move road safety from a revenue opportunity to safety we need to come up with another business plan to get the money to Govt.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Getting held up by bloody caravan drivers is enough to cause road rage and dangerous driving.

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Now , come'on Ron , you need to stay Calm , 3 deeep Breaths...:D

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Getting held up by bloody caravan drivers is enough to cause road rage and dangerous driving.

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Only if they are driving Volvo station wagons and wearing a hat! :D :D :D