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    Who the heck would vote "Yes"?

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    I can't believe that some donkeys think it's a good idea to have double demerits (well, apart from the RTA and the pollies who we know are donkeys!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    ...I can't believe that some donkeys think it's a good idea to have double demerits ....
    It seems that 46% or respondents do believe the propaganda.

    It most definately had an effect in the first holiday period when it was introduced but that transient effect has long since gone.

    I wonder if they could try something radical, like say .... more visible Police presence on the roads!

    Now that would be radical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    I wonder if they could try something radical, like say .... more visible Police presence on the roads!

    Now that would be radical.
    ...... in that it works.
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    I dunno, it works on me. I'm usually pretty careful about sticking to the speed limit, but I do pay a lot more attention to it during double demerits.

    Haven't had a prang yet.

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    don't see the big issue, don't speed and it wont matter if there's double demerit or not. seems pretty simple to me, although i did finish high school in the median grade so i guess there are some people out there that aren't so clever and can't work out the simplicity in that equation.

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    The problem is that so many drivers are so scared of the double demerits that they annoy those of us who want to travel at the speed limit. The donkeys travel at up to 20 km/h below.
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    I remember one bloke had an A4 sheet of paper stuck to the centre console of that read 'Warning - double demerits all weekend'.... didn't stop him from doing 107 in the 80 zone. Bugger.

    Nice bloke too.

    In principal I don't agree with double bungers. If I were boss there'd be 60, 80, 120 speed zones and that's it. Kids would get taught road sense and driving in schools and using a mobile when driving would get the phone destroyed on the spot......and i'd open a mobile phone shop

    There'd be other things but I'm not in the rant section. But at the end of the day it's easier and cheaper to punish after the fact than teach the right thing in the first place.


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    Elisabeth's new 2008 Forester (and her previous 2005 Forester) both indicate a poopteenth under 120km/h when doing 110km/h (as per the GPS). I note that when I sit at 110km/h on the speedo, many other cars are travelling at the same speed. I can only assume that my three GPS are wrong or that all the other cars have high reading speedos, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    The problem is that so many drivers are so scared of the double demerits that they annoy those of us who want to travel at the speed limit. The donkeys travel at up to 20 km/h below.
    i agree to a certain degree with this. but also see the flip side. If a "p" plater or any driver isn't confident on the road and is doing 10 or so k lower than the speed limit, how many drivers out there will be patient and sit a comfortable distance behind instead of riding up the arse? not too many.
    same as people following me while i am towing a caravan. i guarantee you that my caravan is not safe to tow at 100klms/h gets a big sway up, yet soooo many ppl sit about 2 feet up the arse of it where i cant see them while i am doing 85 and therefore its still not safe. The problem is most people on the road don't give a rats arse about anyone else on the road until they get in there way and then they get annoyed about being held up a little by those that are trying to drive safely. you would not believe the amount of cars that overtake me on blind corners and over double white lines just so they can do that extra 15km/h. p.s. i am a consciencious tower and move over whenever i get a chance to let traffic past. but that still doesn't seem to be enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosscoe68 View Post
    i agree to a certain degree with this. but also see the flip side. If a "p" plater or any driver isn't confident on the road and is doing 10 or so k lower than the speed limit, how many drivers out there will be patient and sit a comfortable distance behind instead of riding up the arse? not too many.
    same as people following me while i am towing a caravan. i guarantee you that my caravan is not safe to tow at 100klms/h gets a big sway up, yet soooo many ppl sit about 2 feet up the arse of it where i cant see them while i am doing 85 and therefore its still not safe. The problem is most people on the road don't give a rats arse about anyone else on the road until they get in there way and then they get annoyed about being held up a little by those that are trying to drive safely. you would not believe the amount of cars that overtake me on blind corners and over double white lines just so they can do that extra 15km/h. p.s. i am a consciencious tower and move over whenever i get a chance to let traffic past. but that still doesn't seem to be enough
    If a P plater isn't confident enough to drive at the speed limit on the open road, what are they doing there??

    If you can't tow your caravan at 100 kph on the open road (I am talking reasonable straght roads) then there is something wrong with your setup.
    My Dad is 70 years old and tows his big (dual axle) van at the speed limit quite safely.

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