Thread: Maglite sales website USA

Thanks Dullbird, I should have expanded that but all I know is that there have been issues with some laptops in transit with their lithium batts (either going bang or causing some catastrophe ???). It appears that Aust Post do not want to take liability???

Funny though that there are Lithium batts in so many consumer items nowadays I can not see how they are going to enforce.

Nearly anything with a memory has them, phones, watches, many toys and medical devices etc etc. Airlines (using commonsense) regulate lithium batts in transport. Commercial quantities need to be waived with specific packaging and/or labeling, or alternatively ground shipment. To totally ban all Lithium Batts in the post via air travel seems ludicrous as many of the safety items on a plane (life boats etc are fitted with lithium batts in their survival equipment and no doubt the "black boxes" would be fitted with lithium batts (please correct me if i am wrong as i am assuming here).

As usual good old Australia (I really do love my country but sometime ) becomes the "nanny state" and regulates everyone because of some minor/rare incident. Yes there have been issues with Lithium Batts and lessons have been learnt but Aussie Post you have gone overboard on this one!

Sorry for my ranting!
Thommo

Battery life was one of the reasons I got the LED for the 4D Maglite. I was lucky to get 3 or 4 camping trips from a set of batteries. That is about $20 per set of batteries. They always seemed to be flat when I really needed to use it.
I'm still on the same set of batteries since fitting the LED so it has been good in that regard.

I don't frequent the Candlepower forums really. I just use them as a really good resource when looking up lighting stuff. A year ago I would have been right into it and modified it like they do but now I just want to put batteries in it and push the button.

Walmart sell maglites. Got a 3D LED model for about USD 35 when over there for work a few months ago.

Originally Posted by Thommo

Thanks Dullbird, I should have expanded that but all I know is that there have been issues with some laptops in transit with their lithium batts (either going bang or causing some catastrophe ???). It appears that Aust Post do not want to take liability???

Funny though that there are Lithium batts in so many consumer items nowadays I can not see how they are going to enforce.

Nearly anything with a memory has them, phones, watches, many toys and medical devices etc etc. Airlines (using commonsense) regulate lithium batts in transport. Commercial quantities need to be waived with specific packaging and/or labeling, or alternatively ground shipment. To totally ban all Lithium Batts in the post via air travel seems ludicrous as many of the safety items on a plane (life boats etc are fitted with lithium batts in their survival equipment and no doubt the "black boxes" would be fitted with lithium batts (please correct me if i am wrong as i am assuming here).

As usual good old Australia (I really do love my country but sometime ) becomes the "nanny state" and regulates everyone because of some minor/rare incident. Yes there have been issues with Lithium Batts and lessons have been learnt but Aussie Post you have gone overboard on this one!

Sorry for my ranting!
Thommo

This one has nothing to do with Aussie Post - it's to do with the International Air Transport Association. Apparently some plane crashes have been blamed on exploding lithium ion batteries. As the mail often travels via air, and you as the consumer won't know if road or air transport is being used, they have a fairly generic shipping declaration. They've had hazardous materials declarations for years anyway.

The rules
http://www.iata.org/nr/rdonlyres/480...att_2009v3.pdf

I work in the world of laptop repairs and for us it's meant coming up with special packaging which means extra cost which we've had to wear.

So how did I get my mobile and lithium battery from china so quick had it in 4 days must of come by air

Originally Posted by Utemad

Battery life was one of the reasons I got the LED for the 4D Maglite. I was lucky to get 3 or 4 camping trips from a set of batteries. That is about $20 per set of batteries. They always seemed to be flat when I really needed to use it.
I'm still on the same set of batteries since fitting the LED so it has been good in that regard.

I don't frequent the Candlepower forums really. I just use them as a really good resource when looking up lighting stuff. A year ago I would have been right into it and modified it like they do but now I just want to put batteries in it and push the button.

we bought a 3watt led 4d cell and put in 9000 mah nmh it goes like a son of a gun. the light is bright and crisp and it seem to go for longer than i care to have it on, we have used it on about 3 camping trips, never run flat, i would buy another but we just havent needed a second one, a good tip is to get a flashing braclet for the kids it helps to keep an eye on them when the sun goes down. i can agree years ago i would have huff and chuffed it up and modified it, now i was just happy to swich it on. ..... lame. lol

Originally Posted by dullbird

So how did I get my mobile and lithium battery from china so quick had it in 4 days must of come by air

I didnt' say they can't be air freighted. Essentially what happens is the battery has to be removed from the device and packed in such a way that it can't be shorted out. It's a hard one to enforce I guess.

Originally Posted by hoadie72

This one has nothing to do with Aussie Post - it's to do with the International Air Transport Association. Apparently some plane crashes have been blamed on exploding lithium ion batteries. As the mail often travels via air, and you as the consumer won't know if road or air transport is being used, they have a fairly generic shipping declaration. They've had hazardous materials declarations for years anyway.

The rules
http://www.iata.org/nr/rdonlyres/480...att_2009v3.pdf

I work in the world of laptop repairs and for us it's meant coming up with special packaging which means extra cost which we've had to wear.

Hey Hoadie72, I Think we are actually agreeing here that the "air transport rules" are an issue but the document you have referred to clearly states that Lithium batts can be air transported with limitations (as you are aware due to the packaging requirements of your laptops etc), the issue however it is Australia Post's interpretation of the rules (a total NO to air travel by some staff and restricted rules by others, with no continuity) that is now the issue. It is still perfectly OK for me to receive Lithium Ion batts delivered to my door via Air using an international/national carrier but NOT Australia Post.

But like you said it has been an issue for the transport of Laptops for a while now it is just making its way down the ranks. If Lithium Batts are so dangerous then I guess they will have to be removed from all the safety equipment they are used in? Dangerous warning labels on wrist watches etc LOL

Thanks for the link it confirms much of what I was speculating.

Thommo

But agreed as you said it is just another added cost/burden for the consumer/enthusiast.