Big Brother - a tracking device in every vehicle!?

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Originally Posted by Tombie2

Like DNA logging from birth...

I have no problem with either...

If I'm not doing something wrong, who cares... :angel:

People who cry about public freedoms want everything, we cant have it both ways...

Its either anarchy or order - you cant have both, the human species is not capable of self order without rules :cool:

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Careful what you wish for (or will allow)

"A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both- and deserve neither"
Thomas Jefferson.

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Originally Posted by willem

This is the bit that worries me. What if a government wanted to track you because they know you voted for the other mob. Or because you belong to a union. or because ... and you can fill in the details here. As someone once said, 'Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. This sort of thing gives far to much power to one group of human beings over another. Human beings have a very sad track record of abusing power, and it is our interests to prevent governments - or anyone else - from getting to much power.

Willem

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Agree 100%, I come from south america and I know very well what it is ABUSING POWER, and do not think that Australia is diferent, the human race does not have frontiers ;)

Wow what a marvelous idea sign me up I'm all for it.....

I can see it now ......5 years in and it will be .......

Hi Mr Smith your local .Gov rep here we've noticed you seem to be spending a lot of time in isolated locations in the interests of national security we will have to impound your all terrain vehicle don't want you getting up to any mischief now do we sir

15 years down the tack and it will be.............

Number 99 you are to report to KRUDD hospital immediately for organ retrieval as your local party official needs a new heart

stuff me drunk anybody who would say they have no problem with this sort of legislation needs to go an read some history books the human race haven't got any better the toys have just got fancier

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Originally Posted by Tombie2

Playing devils advocate...

Easy... If after "x" time the device does not respond, then some 'official' request is sent to the owner requesting it report for inspection within 48 hours..

Failure to attend results in unregistered vehicle (therefore uninsured).

Easily makes it functional.

Or a tamper sensor on the inside of the box, if supply is cut/box opened, then the internal power cell sends a tamper message to the tracking station and you get busted.

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Easy to overcome.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Or have a look at this proposal - which allows all internet traffic to be intercepted - without a warrant.

Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment Bill 2009 - Network Protection

John

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Look, this has been going on in Aus on international stuff for more than 8 years. It was installed at the Telstra building in Paddington in about 2000-2001. The code name was Hummingbird. The US installed a similar system even earlier.

However, in both the US and AUS cases, it's for the govt. to monitor the internet. The USA had Carnivore, then Echelon.

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Originally Posted by mudmouse

Yeah, I can't see it coming to fruition.....I have been wrong before though :D

But if they can't get an 'Australia Card' through (which had its merits) then this has got buckleys. Where are they gonna fix to a motorcycle - it could rattle loose and fall on the road....before getting squashed by a big truck.

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We can't even have an e-tag on a motorbike!

This is why they want our guns too.