Thread: Nearly eight-in-10 want city 4WD ban

You guys missed the point and main problem with the survey.
They asked PASSENGER CAR drivers about 4 wds in cities.
Why didnt they ask 4wd drivers about 4 wds in the cities or truck drivers.
The survey was done by a insurance company who would love to levy extra charges on 4 wds.
Another point is I live in the city of the shoalhaven.
Many years ago due to govt handouts the shoalhaven shire was turned into a city to get more funding.
The city I live in is a large country area.
The whole thing is unworkable crapp.

Originally Posted by rocket scientist

I'm with you .
City drivers in the country are the main cause of accidents in our area.
They have no idea.
Then we have foreign drivers on top of that who have absolutely no respect for our road rules.

Ahh you have to love those sweeping generalisations.
I've seen plenty of cockies with "no idea" too.
But I s'pose you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that


Hey while we're at it, can we ban doof-doof cars too?

Originally Posted by solmanic

Yeah - Queensland however uses the fantastically logical system of "number of cylinders" for passenger cars?!?

I didn't have any complaints when I live there - I was paying a huge amount less for my 3.9L Isuzu diesel than people with a 3.5L v8 were

WA has rego based on tare weight - which makes more sense.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Ahh you have to love those sweeping generalisations.
I've seen plenty of cockies with "no idea" too.
But I s'pose you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that


Hey while we're at it, can we ban doof-doof cars too?

I don't see it as a sweeping generalisation.
You don't have to live with idiot Melbourne drivers breaking every rule in the book just so they can get to the snow before it melts. And it happens every day, especially on weekends.
In nearly all cases it is an innocent local that is killed or seriously injured because of the actions of these people, and we are getting pretty sick of it.

I agree on the doof-doof cars.

ahh there's lots of things i'd like banned from our roads, but the one common denominator across all of them is still the driver.

I can't speak for other cities, but in Melbourne, i'd say the most dangerous drivers are taxi drivers and young people in their li'l pink hatchbacks.

This is almost as useless as the P-Plate "no turbo, no V8" laws. There's no point changing cars when the drivers are still dickheads!

Originally Posted by vnx205

It wasn't true in 2002 that the majority of accidents on country roads involve city drivers and it's not true now.
“Official statistics reveal that it is country drivers who are killed on country roads, and they are dying in unacceptable numbers.

This makes sense since accidents on country roads are more likely to be at high speed and therefore more likely to result in a fatality. The statistics may be different if number of "crashes" was researched. I would expect the smaller proportional number of fatalities in cities is just a result of more low-speed crashes resulting in only damage or injury.

Originally Posted by spudboy

It just annoys the crap out of me when we get people driving 50Km/h in an 80 or even 100Km/h zone, where the roads are very windy (no overtaking points) and they won't pull over and let a huge tailback of traffic pass them. If they are happy at 50 - fine, but they should think about the frustration of the people stuck behind them.

I for one have been frustrated by just as many country drivers driving slowly on country roads. The usual scenario involves farmer Joe pulling out of one of his driveways into a 100km/h stream of traffic and dawdling along in his beat up 'Cruiser or Hilux at 70km/h before pulling into another driveway or stopping in the next town. I think some contry folk deliberately drive slowly on highways near their places as some sort of passive-aggressive protest against interstate traffic. Alternatively some country townsfolk seem to get some perverse satisfaction from driving through their town at 50km/h on the main highway when the speed limit is 70km/h. Maybe they think they are doing it as a public safety service?!?

Originally Posted by isuzurover

I didn't have any complaints when I live there - I was paying a huge amount less for my 3.9L Isuzu diesel than people with a 3.5L v8 were

Yet another reason why I upgraded to the new 4cyl Defender. Td5's are charged the same rego in Qld as a 6cyl !!!

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Happens every day on the Pacific Highway particularly the stretches from Ballina to Grafton and Woolgoolga to Urunga. Main offenders are geriatrics towing caravans or driving motor homes.

But the real problem here is not the grey-nomads who are probably going as fast as their Kia Sorrento will let them towing a Jayco Expanda, it's the travesty of a highway that is the Pacific Highway which after all these years is still only two-way in most parts - especially around the NSW north coast.

Coffs Harbour bypass my arse! I'll believe it when I see it.