The old and the New ( Planes _)

**JDNSW** · 1st September 2009, 04:48 PM

When I was in Wewak I got a story that explained one of the airframe log book entries in the Cessna 180 I owned in the early seventies. It seems that when it was based in Wewak, one of the pilots was demonstrating that with the 180 you can get a real short landing run by touching down with the brakes on. The idea is that the main gear is so far forward that it is impossible to nose over if you touch down in a three point attitude.

It might work on grass - but it did not work on the tarmac at Wewak. Next log book entry was a complete rebuild in Brisbane.

John

**Sleepy** · 1st September 2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by numpty

That would be the reason why air traffic control in Australia always ask military pilots to check for green lights, indicating their undercarriage is lowered.

Nah, that relates to a Mirage that landed "wheels-up" at Tullamarine in the early 70's.

Ever since the civvies must add the phrase "CHECK WHEELS" at the end of a landing clearance to MIL acft......we obviously don't care about the civvy aircraft!

**numpty** · 1st September 2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Nah, that relates to a Mirage that landed "wheels-up" at Tullamarine in the early 70's.

Ever since the civvies must add the phrase "CHECK WHEELS" at the end of a landing clearance to MIL acft......we obviously don't care about the civvy aircraft!

That is what I was alluding to, that it is ATC practice, not that we had suddenly started doing it because of that incident.

**Sleepy** · 1st September 2009, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by numpty

That is what I was alluding to, that it is ATC practice, not that we had suddenly started doing it because of that incident.

True, although we did "suddenly started doing it" in the 70's and never stopped.

You recon those jock's would be looking for those 3 pretty green lights without someone reminding them.

Bit like - "Clear for take off - Have you got clean undies on?"

**numpty** · 1st September 2009, 08:34 PM

It would be a part of military protocol I assume.

**Sleepy** · 1st September 2009, 08:42 PM

raafies have bad memories?? hehehe

**V8Ian** · 1st September 2009, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepy

raafies have bad memories?? hehehe

And dirty jocks?

**clean32** · 1st September 2009, 08:53 PM

i had a front leg come back in a 310 quite a few years ago. not nice

**Sleepy** · 1st September 2009, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by clean32

i had a front leg come back in a 310 quite a few years ago. not nice

nearly as bad as when your nosewheel collapses....... hehehehe!

**clean32** · 1st September 2009, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepy

nearly as bad as when your nosewheel collapses....... hehehehe!

well if you want to put it that way. they are a bit hot over the fence but didn't have the flow to keep it bum down. it was a transport flight NORDA 50kg of fuses so down 1 light and no pan pan

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