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    Honda Weedwackers

    Hi Guys
    Anybody got any experience with the new Honda 4 Stroke whipper snippers???? The UMK 435 or 425 with handlebars.There is around $80 difference between the 2,the bigger one is 35.8cc,1.2kw the other 25cc,.8kw.How do these go compared to a 2 stroke??? more power on paper but heavier being a 4 stroke.
    The Mrs is after a bigger toy,she has a Sthil with the bent shaft which she has trouble using.At work(school gardener) she uses a Sthil FS85 with no issues(has the bull horn handlebars and harness.
    Its for use at home and her gardening clients.
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    I borrowed a mate of mines a while back

    I couldn't tell you the model, but it did have the harness and bullhorn handles

    Was pretty smooth as one would expect from a Honda. As far as weight went, I didn't notice the difference. My old man has a Huskie and they seemed to be on par weight wise

    You will need to make sure she keeps the oil up to it though

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    Thanks Jock
    How did you find it in heavy cutting compared to a 2 stroke???
    With the oil,do they use it??? I see from the spec sheet they use "oil mist lubrication",guessing correct running in is important if a fine mist of oil is used to lubricate the piston.
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    If weights not an issue,Pope has a 33cc jobie that u can pick up at Big W for $148. Its extremely reliable . we,ve used the commercially, no mechanical probs at all. Only prob is if u use them all day everyday, the weight issue kicks in, but I dont think you,ll beat it value 4 money.
    Cheers Dean.

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    Hey Andrew ... We are a Honda dealer and I sell them at work ... so my opinion is biased! <VBG> ... anything specific you need to know ??

    The torque curve on the 25 & 35cc mini 4's is almost flat ... which means at low revs the machine still has guts ... unlike a 2 stroke which basically needs its tits revved off to tackle heavy work. At full tilt they are as good/better than an equivalent cc'd 2 stroke... for average work, you don't need to rev them as hard as they don't bog down as fast as a 2stroke.

    They are marginally heavier. No mixing fuel & oil. They are quiter. They use MUCH less fuel (what a full time contractor will save in fuel & oil costs by switching to a Honda B/C versus his old 2 stroke, will basically save him enough money to buy a new Honda every 2 years!)

    They start quicker, and easier than any 2 stroke. Period. The oil system is a pressure feed throughout the engine complete ... not just splash ... and the engine will run happily through a full 360deg' rotation ... you can run it upside down all day long without doing damage!

    Like I said ... I'm biased ... been selling Honda Power Equipment for the last 23 years ... the stuff's as good as everyone claims (actually better imho). I'd never go back to a 2 stroke ... yucky, noisy, smelly, oily ... but I drive a TD5

    Kev..

    ... oh, the oil ... 10w/30. They take 80cc & 100cc of oil (25/35cc). They use a minimal amount ... but then, we are only talking 100cc of oil ... 10x oil changes to the litre ... it's not an issue!
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    Thanks Kev.
    Exactly what I needed to hear
    We have a Honda mower and EU20i gennie,great gear!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 953 View Post
    If weights not an issue,Pope has a 33cc jobie that u can pick up at Big W for $148. Its extremely reliable . we,ve used the commercially, no mechanical probs at all. Only prob is if u use them all day everyday, the weight issue kicks in, but I dont think you,ll beat it value 4 money.
    Cheers Dean.

    We sell the Pope stuff (actually it's Toro Australia). It's actually not too bad ... but ... in around 12 months time the Pope division of Toro is intending to get out of the outdoor power equipment market as we've been told ... parts WILL become an issue

    ... and it's not really commercial quality stuff anyway.

    fwiw
    Kev..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Thanks Jock
    How did you find it in heavy cutting compared to a 2 stroke???
    With the oil,do they use it??? I see from the spec sheet they use "oil mist lubrication",guessing correct running in is important if a fine mist of oil is used to lubricate the piston.
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    Andrew
    I wasn't really into the rough stuff, just doing some garden trimming. My mate did say they lop the odd small tree down with the blade on though

    I guess it's like using a chainsaw, everytime you check fuel, check oil. It didn't use huge amounts maybe a tablespoon or two over a couple of hours

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    Hi Kev,
    we,ve been using Honda mowers nearly as long as you,ve been selling them. Without doubt the best motor we have ever used, everything else on the mower falls to bits & the motor just will not die, amazing.
    Must try a brush cutter one day. Do you know if Honda r contemplatring a muli tool? Sorry 4 hijack Andy.
    Cheers Dean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Thanks Kev.
    Exactly what I needed to hear
    We have a Honda mower and EU20i gennie,great gear!!!
    Thanks
    Andrew
    You're welcome!

    If you already have a Honda Mower and an EU20i ... why you asking ??

    It's a HONDA mate !

    I've had my Honda mower for 23years ... still goes 1st pull ... and it's comfortably got another 10-15years left in it.

    The big difference with the Honda gear is it costs more up front to purchase ... but over the working life it costs far LESS to own, run & maintain ... which means a smaller TCO ... total cost of ownership ... and none of the greif & *&^%$#!! agro becuase it won't start when you need it to ...

    Kev..

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