Agree , well said . More people doing a little bit of education for their kids at home and not just relying on the education dept... what has happened to parents explaining historic things e.g Wars ect...Quote:
Originally Posted by korg20000bc
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Agree , well said . More people doing a little bit of education for their kids at home and not just relying on the education dept... what has happened to parents explaining historic things e.g Wars ect...Quote:
Originally Posted by korg20000bc
Calm down children.
I personally think that too many people get their parental training from TV, and not just TV shows.
We have the media making heros of sports personal that had they been in any other fields of endeavour, would be in goal for criminal way the not only behave but get touted as heros for doing so.
And this is not just the thugballers, there are a few real roll model cricketers as well.
Then there is the morel standards ( or total lack there of ) of many of the stars of today.
The TV media in it’s attempts to win over viewers will do anything including praising the contemptible behaviour of many of the stars, so it’s no wonder children and their parents behave the way they do and have little knowledge of our history and events that shaped this country.
They are continually bombarded with the wrong values and our education system does nothing to correct this.
This is the responsability of the parents primarily, yet so many people blame teachers. Teachers are payed to impart facts and figures, not to raise other peoples offspring. Having kids is a lot more than picking up baby bonuses and changing nappies for a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by drivesafe
I don't have children but I do know there is no better teacher to a child then its parent.....
As someone who (according to the generalisations...) has no clue at all about anything... :angel:
I'll tell you of a few of my experiences.
My first history lesson in Year 9 (way back in 2003 :p) was also the first for my teacher, a recently neutralised pom, fresh out of uni. The topic was "Federation 1900". :o No matter how much we tried, during the lesson he wouldn't change it. Next week, he didn't want to talk about it! :lol2:
In Year 10, the history of WW2 was all about Australia's involvement. There were two parts - one of three elective focus topics, Tobruk, POWs and Kokoda; as well as a core section covering the Pacific, the home front, and the role of women, aboriginals and migrants. Was there anything happening in Europe? Not unless you did Modern History in Y11&12 :TIC:
When my family went on trips around the country, my brother and I were shown all sorts of things... not just the usual tourist attractions, but things like the mines on the Yorke Peninsula, the Tree of Knowledge in Barcaldine, various dams and power stations of the Snowy Mountains Scheme. Not because we had any particular connection to them, but because they are Australia's wider heritage. And then there were the stories, like that of the headless horseman as we passed through Booroorban.
When you're young, you're always learning. Not just facts, figures, algebra; but the common sense, general knowledge, and generally life, too. So there's no reason to treat learning as something that happens only by teaching 9-3 in a school system. The best learning, I'd say, happens, and continues at home. So if you think something is important enough for your kids to know, take it upon yourself to let them learn. ;)
:)
Geoff
I don’t, and my problem is that our children don’t get an education of any real use during that 9-3 “LEARNING” timeframe.Quote:
Originally Posted by thethink
Our education system is a joke and I totally agree with statements like it’s up to the parents to do the bulk of their children's education.
But lets face the facts, these dogooders and the likes have put real meaning to the right of all Australians to FREE education because that’s what we now have, a system FREE of any form of education. :angel:
Ok, I'm gonna come in with an a little teaser for you all.
We assume (as you do on forums) that she didn't know who the nazis were. I will propose that she was asking for more information.
Let's have a look at the Question: "Who were the nazi's?" Perhaps this was an enquiring question something like "Who were the rats of Tobruk?" or "Who were the the Flying Tigers?" She may well have known what they had done and were and when they operated - but who were they?
"Who were the nazis?" Sounds more like an open question worthy of 2 bottles of red and a healthy debate rather than a marker of a moron.
So okay experts - WHO WERE THE NAZIs?"
I bet we dont all give the same answer. I bet we are not all 100% right either.
P.S. I learnt little (nothing) about the nazi's in High School in the 1970's.
I went to school at about the same time Sleepy, the only history I was taught was in Primary School Social Studies. I asked older people and read books, to further my knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepy
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Originally Posted by Sleepy
context . in an environment of high and hyper inflation Germany. ( created by the repatriations germany had to make, backed up by a global depression created by the US war loans debacle.a power vacuum of a new democracy. a Communist takeover and a violent struggle back to a democracy and then disappointment of the inactions of that democratic government. the Nationalist socialist party was formed a apart of the fledgling democracy.
Adof Hitler who had had a rather depraved and a bit strange life up until then Joined the NAZI party and as a great orator soon rose to a place of prominence. the Nazis soon gained the confidence of those who over thought the Communists and in there dissatisfaction of the current government attempted there own take over by popular force. this failed and Hitler ended up in jail. his light sentence is an indicator of the Nazis popularity at that time. The nazi party carried on unsuccessfully until adoff joined them again. wining seats in parliament and then taking control of the coalition government.
Nazi initial policy was for government intervention in business and setting of standards like minim wagers etc. very similar to australian expectations today.
once Adof became chancellor it becomes rather difficult to refer to the Nazi party any more as many of the ideals of that organization had fallen by the wayside as adoffs and others personal motivations came to play.
When you have uneducated kids having kids the system must break down and the goverment supports this, we must expect low standards.
Hodgo