Thread: Anybody running Cooper S/T?

Originally Posted by Sith

yup i got them they are rubbish , tear lugs off all the time , wont stay in balance and casing has separated on one

Sith, with all due respect, could it be operator error.
As said by many as well as driving instructors, lugs will tear off any tyre if in-correct pressure in tyres does not suit the situation and or people are traversing too quickly.

A tyre is not in-destructable and if we deflate tyres and drive slowly I bet even a very cheap tyre would perform well.

I have many times seen people just say Nah I got a V8 with wolf management and 4inch lift and can go anywhere and watch how fast I can do it too.
Many You-tube videos are evidence of that. Drive slow and let the tyres down and i bet you will have a much better run with your tyres.
If you already are a careful slow and steady man than forget what I said and happy roving.

Originally Posted by big guy

Sith, with all due respect, could it be operator error.
As said by many as well as driving instructors, lugs will tear off any tyre if in-correct pressure in tyres does not suit the situation and or people are traversing too quickly.

A tyre is not in-destructable and if we deflate tyres and drive slowly I bet even a very cheap tyre would perform well.

I have many times seen people just say Nah I got a V8 with wolf management and 4inch lift and can go anywhere and watch how fast I can do it too.
Many You-tube videos are evidence of that. Drive slow and let the tyres down and i bet you will have a much better run with your tyres.
If you already are a careful slow and steady man than forget what I said and happy roving.

True, but the difference is that most other tyres will tear part of the tread block but the tread block remains firmly attached to the carcass.

The ST on the other hand will tear the carcass resulting the removal of the entire tread block, and the minor cracking is probably also the reason for that tyres more common than mosts tread delamination.

It doesn't take much to damage these tyres. Just a low key jaunt through the Snowy/Murray region is enough.

Originally Posted by isuzu110

I'm onto my second set of STs (LT) since 2001 and love em.

Done a 1.5 laps of Oz in them, including a tag along with you Hymie

Never had a flat. Never had a chip.

I have had STTs chip real bad on rock ledges. Probably not aired down enough. My bad.

From memeory you were on the High Country Easter trip with the family weren't you?
Wasn't that the coldest trip ever!

Anyhow, I started the thread to alert people of a possible problem, not to bag a brand of tyre. Lets not get too emotional about it.

Nope , its hardly driver error when I watch my tyre pressures and route taken , also Tyre Power also agreed that the "batch" was a bad one ...

even harder to have a WOLF 3DV4 on a 300 tdi defender ...

Let me guess .... you sell them or work for them

Originally Posted by big guy

Sith, with all due respect, could it be operator error.
As said by many as well as driving instructors, lugs will tear off any tyre if in-correct pressure in tyres does not suit the situation and or people are traversing too quickly.

A tyre is not in-destructable and if we deflate tyres and drive slowly I bet even a very cheap tyre would perform well.

I have many times seen people just say Nah I got a V8 with wolf management and 4inch lift and can go anywhere and watch how fast I can do it too.
Many You-tube videos are evidence of that. Drive slow and let the tyres down and i bet you will have a much better run with your tyres.
If you already are a careful slow and steady man than forget what I said and happy roving.

Neither sell or work for someone who does, not even close and lots of 4 wheel driving on rock and shale, then again can't say I have had many tyre problems at all other than last long weekend when I slashed the sidewall on a Sava on the 80 series (they were on it when I got it) and destroyed the tyre.

Lots of hard off roading, especially through the summer periods on stinking hot days, loaded up with no tyre problems. Maybe your just unlucky.

Got a set of Cooper H/T for the P38. That was about 20,000 km ago Like the wise man said, mostly one travels long distances on the bitumen to get to the rough stuff... so, on sand/gravel/lotza dirt road corrugations...take it easy / watch pressures ...they've been quite reasonable... I remember when Evan Green and "Gelignite" Jack Murray did a figure 8 crossing of Oz in an Austin 1800 and a Mini Minor on standard tyres...

Tearing lugs off tyres is just a heavy right foot on rocky ground. Try driving properly at the correct pressures. I see mates in the middle of summer spinning their Simex Centipedes on rocks till smoke comes off and then cry about torn lugs. They are MUD tyres!!! Hence, the BIG LUGS!

I've got STTs and they're fine... and i'm not all that nice to them either. 80% offroad, 20% on (weekend truck).

PS: I've heard they WERE a poor tyre... How old are all these worst-tyre-in-the-world stories?