Thread: Troopy or Defender ?

Originally Posted by EchiDna

I've been waiting for this thread to turn "Isuzu"

We can organise that How about a 6BD1T into a Toymota Should fit

Originally Posted by numpty

A mechanic at work related the same to me from his army days. The Toymotas were not to go off road, that was for the Land Rovers.

Around Newcastle the Army have some very flash white Prado's on HT tyres, I see them used regularly on the top secret extraction missions, at the Broadmeadow McDonalds.

When I worked on tojo's I was on the forums as it is a good way to find out info,same here,If you want to know something just ask.There is alot of things that go wrong with all makes and models and it's not just LR's that have them,disco's for an example have lots of troubles with the ABS,100 series are the same but in the 100 it's the modulator that fails at $4000 replacement cost or $5 for a spring that pulls the peddle back up,don't anyone think that we are the only ones spending money on our vehicles. Pat

Originally Posted by rovercare

Yea but thats 3 in 3 bazillion, some phrases aren;t meant to be taken so literally

But I rest assured, I know of 1 stoppage in a 1HDT-FTE, from pump failure, and now you tell me you know 3, well thats 4 total, care me to list tdi, td5??, its a sobering moment

You must also remember that LR have to abide by euro laws that make them bring in new engines before they can develope into trouble free units,tojo don't until now and what happened,the TDV8 hasn't bathed itself in glory.Back to the thread the troopy has nothing on the defender except it's name and for bigger people a bit more room and bigger fuel tanks,nothing that can't be fixed on the defender with the $20 grand you save buying it.With the Tdi,Td5 most are wrecked by overheating them,thats what wrecks a great number of all engines types and something thats easy to avoid,my Tdi is proof that serviced properly they do last a long time. Pat

Originally Posted by dobbo

Around Newcastle the Army have some very flash white Prado's on HT tyres, I see them used regularly on the top secret extraction missions, at the Broadmeadow McDonalds.

Yes they are green machines not allowed off road.It costs about 10 Grand to get them off roadable and even then do you really know what you've got..How do I know my young brother who was going to buy a Prado found out just how good they are... and with the extra cost to do what he wants them to do dropped them like a dirty rag..so much for Tojo all name no substance. I'll stick to my 300TDI it has taken me over most of Oz cheaply and comfortably.To end Tojo relies on spending millions on advertising to sell,Landrover a mere drop in the bucket.
Cheers,
John ( disco 44)

I find it surprising that no one has mentioned the nissan patrol td42, these cars are very strong and reliable this would be my option if not a landy nut.

some one in this post said that the cruiser 79 series had ifs in the front and leaf in the rear, I just want to correct this as this model cruiser has coil beam axle in the front and you were correct with the rear leafs. (small detail)

Whilst bashing toyota, the utes and troopys I agree are crap, bad suspension and over priced, but when you compare the 80 series wagon and 100 series beam axled wagons with a 2'' lift they are very capable trucks offroad. I personaly would not have one as I don't like the seating position and alot off toyota owners are dick heads, and most rover owners are open minded and friendly.

My ultimate car is my county that I am 3/4 the way through doing a isuzu
4bd1 plus turbo conversion once done I believe you have the ultimate power plant for torque economy and reliability plus charactor

Thank you all for the input !,
as expected a lot of for and against, but over all very open minded responses. ( as i expected in this forum , ) and certainly very helpfull
he is very open minded about both , slightly leaning toward the defender, but currently looking at a 2000 model troopy with only 130.000 on the clock with full service history, it also has :
Arb winch bar
OX 10.000 hydraulic winch.
2 X 90ltr fuel tanks
2 bucket seats ( Drivers seat has been upgraded to after market air ride seat)
New king springs & Koni shocks
Tinted windows
A/C
UHF
BFG all terrains ( prob need replaced in 6 mnths or so)
body and under caridge all look like new
price ? well it is south of $24.000

so we will se how he goes ,

again thankyou all so much for all the inpute ideas etc,

Regareds,

Steve

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