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    It does I have 10 amp outlet, fiddling about under the flouro lights at the moment, its telling me I;m getting 7.5 volts and .1 of an amp, bit inconclusive will try it with sun in the morning

    Would be good if someone could enlighten me as to parallal and series connections ? I assume it would be simular to parallal and series battery wiring?

    If there is a good web site that deals with this I would love to know.

    Thanks Andrew

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    thats exactly right.

    if you join all the positives to all the positives and all the negatives to all the negatives then its all in parallel

    if you go positive of one to the negative of the next then from positive to negative and make a big long chain then thats in series.

    try these for the basics in batteries

    Battery Wiring
    Learn how to wire solar panels and battery systems

    panels work on the same basic principales but need extra care when it comes to where the regulators and/or blocking diodes go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adonuff View Post
    It does I have 10 amp outlet, fiddling about under the flouro lights at the moment, its telling me I;m getting 7.5 volts and .1 of an amp, bit inconclusive will try it with sun in the morning

    Thanks Andrew
    That would be about right.
    You cannot get anything worth while from a solar panel under artificial light.

    Dave.

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    Thanks everyone going out to try it out in the sunlight, Learning lots, going to eventually set up the caravan with batterys and solar panels. Soon as funds become available.

    Andrew

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    when it comes to buying panels ebay and auction sites are your friend be wary of panels that are over about 3-4 years old.

    FME its at about that age that they start to degrade, they still work, just not as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    the panel may still be outputting 5 amps but the one thats fallen over will now be drawing current.

    if you think of it like a pair simple permanant magnet generators in parralell while both are being driven your getting power out of both of them. If you remove the drive from one it will carry on spinning becasue its gone from being a generator to a motor. The output from the generator thats still being driven goes to making the undriven generator turn instead of into the batteries.

    a blocking diode also forms the simplest form of charging regulator because it stops the battery from discharging into the panel when its not providing charge.
    Dave,
    I have to disagree here. I have just tried this;

    I connected my two panels in parallel. I put a huge load on my battery to make sure panels would work to full capacity.

    Total current into the battery was 8.6 amps. I then turned one solar panel face down and placed a blanket over it.

    Charge into my battery was then 4.1 amps. The other panel was not taking the current.

    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Whippy View Post
    Dave,
    I have to disagree here. I have just tried this;

    I connected my two panels in parallel. I put a huge load on my battery to make sure panels would work to full capacity.

    Total current into the battery was 8.6 amps. I then turned one solar panel face down and placed a blanket over it.

    Charge into my battery was then 4.1 amps. The other panel was not taking the current.

    Dave.
    If you put them in series and try it, without bypass diodes you will get a very different result, give it a try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraser130 View Post
    If you put them in series and try it, without bypass diodes you will get a very different result, give it a try!
    This may be correct but in Daves(blknight) post on this he was talking in Parallel.

    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Whippy View Post
    Dave,
    I have to disagree here. I have just tried this;

    I connected my two panels in parallel. I put a huge load on my battery to make sure panels would work to full capacity.

    Total current into the battery was 8.6 amps. I then turned one solar panel face down and placed a blanket over it.

    Charge into my battery was then 4.1 amps. The other panel was not taking the current.

    Dave.
    ummm yes it was...
    assuming you used the same panels

    8.6/2=4.3 the blanketed panel was pulling down 200ma.
    Dave

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    All the panels I have owned have already had diodes in them to stop them drawing current if they are not producing voltage higher than the battery/circuit voltage.

    Fraser

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