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OMG you're so right :eek::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by scrambler
So when I'm laying on my death bed and about to croak, prod me with a stick so I can say "Hang on a minute Mr. Death. I paid my ETS taxes so I can't die yet. Go away until my carbon credit is used up :p "
But that doesn't apply to youse fellas in Oz because the Liberals blocked your tax scam. You gonna die on time :p:p
Alan
But only the Major ones.:angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie2
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Penny Wong is Kevins illegitimate love child.
Or is it a freaky coincidence that she looks just like him in every way:o:o including the haircut?
:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:They also wear the same suits.Quote:
Originally Posted by strangy
Sorry was going to post that pennys suit fits better:) but thought better dont want to upset anybody:p
we all VOTE !Quote:
Originally Posted by strangy
these are our "representatives".... ha ha
at least in this part of OZ we have elected independents who DO represent us (and aren't the parties annoyed !)
And that's one of the things that really annoys me about what they laughingly call democracy. They sold us a pup when they said we get to vote for who will lead us, but we only get to call the shots once every 3-4 years. The rest of the time they have free reign. They are only accountable to the voting public about four or five times in their professional lives! Sheesh, what a job :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by 87County
And this Scandinavian jolly jaunt. What's worse than having a bunch of pollies around bickering with each other all the time? When they all get together and try to outdo each other for the most scare talk, racing around screaming
"OMG OMG the sky, it's really falling this time!!!!"
Well, to all the pollies in this world, including the the socialist National PM we have here now :2up:
Alan
From Contact gives the gas bill a New Year boost - National - NZ Herald NewsQuote:
Contact Energy is ringing in the New Year by increasing its gas prices.
About 65,000 residential and business users will pay an average of 5 per cent more for gas from January 1.
Contact's move foreshadows expected rising energy bills as the effect of the emissions trading scheme is felt from the middle of next year.
Alan
If the NZ pollies are like ours here, the parliamentary party dosen't even heed the decisions of their rank and file national congresses. They just go off and do as they feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by disco2hse
In the days of the communication age and the Internet there is no reason that we can't have true democracy and everyone gets to choose to vote on any proposal on the floor of Parliament. We just need a few public servants to organise the agendas and departments to implement policy. Then any citizen who has a good idea can go to the floor of the House and speak to their proposed legislation, other citizens can choose to talk for or against it and then the vote is conducted via the internet. The proposal goes to the legislative writers is then published on the internet and the final Bill is approved or rejected on the floor of the Senate where any citizen can speak for or against the bill and the vote is once again via the internet. If the Bill is successful it becomes law and the public service implements the new law. If it fails it goes back to the house where it either dies or re-starts the process.
I believe they are pretty much the same the world over, when the motivation is power and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
I like that idea but of course there will be those who will point to technology divide as a reason for sticking with what we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
We have the Westminster system with committees and opportunities for the public to make submissions on bills, however those voices are mixed up with well funded lobbyists who act for various parties who also want to be heard. Just because you make a submission doesn't mean it will be listened to of course.
In cases where submitters cannot attend a hearing the committee may be obligated to travel to hear the submission but that is rare.
The government gets around contentious bill delays by forcing them through under urgency. That means that some of the most damaging laws were passed in the middle of the night when no one was around to object to them. The Emissions Tax Scam and the Anti-Smacking legislation were both examples of this.
The last three referenda we had were derisively ignored by parliament. They are not binding and so those in power simply said 85% (in one case) of voters are wrong.
The idea of having continuous voting fills them with fear and when it was proposed here recently several politicians stood up to tell us why it is such a bad idea. Must have been a good idea ;)
Alan