Rents North WA

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Originally Posted by BigJon

I hear you there. Had to fly Coober Pedy to Adelaide a few weeks ago in a SAAB twin turbo prop. Nearly had to get on my knees to fit through the door. Then in the aisle I was hunched over with both shoulders touching the overhead lockers. Once in the seat it wasn't too bad.

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Welcome to my world.......:p.at least I get an instant coffee in a styrofoam cup sometimes.

"O I say Ol' chap real estate caused the Bank of Scotland and other banks and societies in the UK to go bust and the government having to bail them out with billions of taxpayer funds."

That's what they are saying. Banks all over the world were highly exposed to the US mortgage market, and the way securities and exposures were being passed around banks became very unsure what their exposure actually was. Access to finance rapidly decreased and the bubble that everybody knew was there burst.

As for Senator Joe. I understand he was not the most charming of men and his methods were perhaps lacking in nuance but there were actually reds under the bed. The Rosenbergs were guilty.

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Originally Posted by strangy

Welcome to my world.......:p.at least I get an instant coffee in a styrofoam cup sometimes.

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Don't you get to sit front left though?

Or is it right, I can't remember...

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I believe the mining companies and their contractors have an obligation to provide acceptable accommodation for their workforce. They should have to build towns. These may well be hauled away after a period but make this a condition of mining the people's mineral wealth. This is not environmentally and culturally viable. If this was enforced there would be no resource industry boom.



If I was again a young skilled tradesman contemplating jobs in these areas, I would insist on free suitable and acceptable accommodation for myself and my family. To hell with fly in, fly out. I hate flying. I don't fit in aeroplanes. Their owners cater for dwarfs and flights are very uncomfortable.If you tried this you would be an unemployed skilled young tradesman. You would probably also get trampelled by the cue of less skilled tradesman that would happily take your spot.

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This is not aimed at any particular individual but this attitude that the mining company forces workers into FIFO is crap and ****s me. Residential jobs are fine for resource projects that had a 25+ year life span. How is it viable to build a town and infrastructure for a 3 to 5 year small resource development?

Given the choice to spend 2 weeks away working and then a week or so at your comfortable home versus living in some backwater town that has no facilities what would you choose?

Im a heavy duty mechanic by trade and started Fifo when i was 20. Im almost 30 now and have given it away to work for myself in the metro area. Why? Because I had enough of minesites, not FIFO. Its made out to be an evil sinister scheme cooked up by the mining companies to force there employees to work as slaves. 5 years ago when roster where 6 and 1 and 4 and 1 it was probably the case.The reality is that it can set the right person up for life. These days so much as a sniffle will get you sent home. Any sign of trouble at home is normally an immediate flight home and time off to sort your problems. Contrary to the public perception mining and contracting companies do have a social conscience and do want to take care of there workers.

I worked as a site supervisor for the mobile maintenance teams at a nickel project in Lienster. The company i work for was a major WA based contractor. From our perth based group manager down to the leading hands on the floor our main priority (yes it ranked above machine availability) was the wellbeing of our employees.)We where judge heavily on employee moral and retention and i can honestly say 60% of my day was spent ensuring our guys where working happily and safely.



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Luke:)

G'Day all, Well I certainly opened up a can of worms with that thread, didn't I?
All the answers certainly made for good reading and I thank all who replied.It is easy to differentiate between landlords and renters ( I am a landlord believe it or not) but I have family and friends in the coalfields of Queensland who used to pay the prices,not now though, they finish work and are off to Rocky and Mackay which means that local businesses are suffering from their not spending in their relative towns and that spending was significient. Supply and demand and good economics Huh! Only for the landlords.
John.

Yep, Landlords do it tough trying to move ahead and renters whinge, complain and trash property! :p

I still don't understand your last two sentances in your last post.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

Yep, Landlords do it tough trying to move ahead and renters whinge, complain and trash property! :p

I still don't understand your last two sentances in your last post.

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G'Day again Big Jon.Well I reckon that we should agree to disagree.
My Regards,
John W ( disco 44)

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Originally Posted by BigJon

Don't you get to sit front left though?

Or is it right, I can't remember...

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Yep, front left. I do a little gymnastics to get in while holding my tounge the right way. I have more legroom than the sitting passengers but dont have an isle to stretch them on the 3 hr Adelaide jaunts. But the view is good!

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Originally Posted by JamesH

"O I say Ol' chap real estate caused the Bank of Scotland and other banks and societies in the UK to go bust and the government having to bail them out with billions of taxpayer funds."

That's what they are saying. Banks all over the world were highly exposed to the US mortgage market, and the way securities and exposures were being passed around banks became very unsure what their exposure actually was. Access to finance rapidly decreased and the bubble that everybody knew was there burst.

As for Senator Joe. I understand he was not the most charming of men and his methods were perhaps lacking in nuance but there were actually reds under the bed. The Rosenbergs were guilty.

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O boy couldn't we open another debate on MacCarthy and his methods ( also Menzies and his "reds under the beds" rants) but I think not Cheers and thanks for your replies.
John ( disco 44 )

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Originally Posted by strangy

Yep, front left. I do a little gymnastics to get in while holding my tounge the right way. I have more legroom than the sitting passengers but dont have an isle to stretch them on the 3 hr Adelaide jaunts. But the view is good!

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Graham gave me a tour a couple of years ago. It does look like getting in is difficult.