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    Copenhagen what a joke!

    Copy of an e-mail I got yesterday




    Below is a list of the 114 Australian’s going to Copenhagen – we (you and I) are paying for all their travel, accommodation and meals – and we thought Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong were genuine about trying to cut greenhouse gases…
    Read on and marvel:
    Australia
    H.E. Mr Kevin Michael Rudd Prime Minister
    H.E. Ms. Penelope Wong Minister, Climate Change and Water Office of the Minister for Climate Change and Water
    H.E. Ms. Louise Helen Hand Ambassador for Climate Change Department of Climate Change
    Mr. David Fredericks Deputy Chief of Staff Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Mr. Philip Green Oam Senior Policy Adviser, Foreign Affairs Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Mr. Andrew Charlton Senior Adviser Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Mr. Lachlan Harris Senior Press Secretary Prime Minister’s Office Office of Prime Minister
    Mr. Scott Dewar Senior Adviser Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Clare Penrose Adviser Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Fiona Sugden Media Adviser Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Lisa French Office of the Prime Minister Office of Prime Minister
    Mr. Jeremy Hilman Adviser Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Tarah Barzanji Adviser Office of Prime Minister
    Mr. Kate Shaw Executive Secretary Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Gaile Barnes Executive Assistant Office of Prime Minister
    Ms. Gordon de Brouwer Deputy Secretary Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Mr. Patrick Suckling First Assistant Secretary, International Division Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Ms. Rebecca Christie Prime Minister’s Office
    Mr. Michael Jones Official Photographer Prime Minister and Cabinet
    Mr. Stephan Rudzki
    Mr. David Bell Federal Agent Australian Federal Police
    Ms. Kym Baillie Australian Federal Police
    Mr. David Champion Australian Federal Police
    Mr. Matt Jebb Federal Agent Australian Federal Police
    Mr. Craig Kendall Federal Agent Australian Federal Police
    Mr. Ian Lane Squadron Leader Staff, Officer VIP Operations
    Mr. John Olenich Media Adviser / Adviser to Minister Wong Office of the Minister for Climate Change and Water
    Ms. Kristina Hickey Adviser to Minister Wong Office of the Minister for Climate Change and Water
    Mr. Martin Parkinson Secretary Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Howard Bamsey Special Envoy for Climate Change Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Robert Owen-Jones Assistant Secretary, International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Clare Walsh Assistant Secretary, International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Jenny Elizabeth Wilkinson Policy Advisor Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Elizabeth Mary Peak Principal Legal Adviser, International Climate Law Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Kristin Tilley Director, Multilateral Negotiations International Division Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Andrew Ure Acting Director, Multilateral Negotiations International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Annemarie Watt Director, Land Sector Negotiations International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Kushla Munro Director, International Forest Carbon Section International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Kathleen Annette Rowley Director, Strategic and Technical Analysis Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Anitra Cowan Assistant Director, Multilateral Negotiations Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Sally Truong Assisting Director, Multilateral Negotiations International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Jane Wilkinson Assistant Director Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Tracey Mackay Assistant Director International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Laura Brown Assistant Director, Multilateral Negotiations International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Tracey-Anne Leahey Delegation Manager Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Nicola Loffler Senior Legal Adviser, International Climate Law Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Tamara Curll Legal Adviser, International Climate Law Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Jessica Allen Legal Support Officer Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Sanjiva de Silva Legal Adviser, International Climate Law Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Gaia Puleston Political Adviser Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Penelope Jane Morton Policy Adviser, Multilateral Negotiations (UNFCCC) International Division Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Claire Elizabeth Watt Policy Advisor Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Amanda Walker Policy Officer, Multilateral Negotiations Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Alan David Lee Policy Adviser, Land Sector Negotiations Department of Climate Change
    Ms. Erika Kate Oord Australian Stakeholder Manager Department of Climate Change
    Mr. Jahda Kirian Swanborough Communications Manager Ministerial Communication Department of Climate Change
    H.E. Mr. Sharyn Minahan Ambassador DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Julia Feeney Director, Climate Change and Environment Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Mr. Chester Geoffrey Cunningham Second Secretary DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Germany
    Ms. Rachael Virginia Cooper Executive Officer, Climate Change and Environment Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Ms. Rachael Grivas Executive Officer, Environment Branch Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Moya Elyn Collett Desk officer, Climate Change and Environment Section Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Mr. Rob Law Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Mr. Robin Davies Assistant Director General, Sustainable Development Group Australian Agency for International Development
    Ms. Deborah Fulton Director, Policy and Global Environment Australian Agency for International Development
    Ms. Katherine Renee Ann Vaughn Policy Advisor, Policy and Global Environment Australian Agency for International Development
    Mr. Brian Dawson Policy Adviser Australian Agency for International Development
    Mr. Andrew Leigh Clarke Deputy Secretary Department of Resources Development, Western Australia
    Mr. Bruce Wilson General Manager, Environment Energy and Environment Division Department of Resources Development, Western Australia
    Ms. Jill McCarthy Policy Adviser Department of Resources, Energy and Tourism
    Mr. Simon French Policy Adviser Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry
    Mr. Ian Michael Ruscoe Policy Adviser Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry
    Mr. David Walland Acting Superintendent, National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology
    Mr. Damien Dunn Senior Policy Adviser The Australian Treasury
    Ms. Helen Hawka Fuhrman Policy Officer, Renewable Energy Policy and Partnerships
    Mr. Scott Vivian Davenport Chief Economics NSW Department of Industry and Investment
    Mr. Graham Julian Levitt Policy Manager, Climate Change NSW Department of Industry and Investment
    Ms. Kate Jennifer Jones Minister, Climate Change and Sustainability Queensland Government
    Mr. Michael William Dart Principal Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Kate Jones MP Queensland Government
    Mr. Matthew Anthony Jamie Skoien Senior Director, Office of Climate Change Queensland Government
    Mr. Michael David Rann Premier, South Australia Department of Premier and Cabinet, Southern Australia
    Ms. Suzanne Kay Harter Adviser Department of Premier and Cabinet, Southern Australia
    Mr. Paul David Flanagan Manager, Communications Government of South Australia
    Mr. Timothy William O’Loughlin Deputy Chief Executive, Sustainability and Workforce Management Department of Premier and Cabinet South Australian Government
    Ms. Nyla Sarwar M.Sc student Linacre College University of Oxford
    Mr. Gavin Jennings Minister, Environment and Climate Change and Innovation, Victorian Government
    Ms. Sarah Broadbent Sustainability Adviser
    Ms. Rebecca Falkingham Senior Adviser Victoria Government/Office of Climate Change
    Mr. Simon Camroux Policy Adviser Energy Supply Association of Australia Limited
    Mr. Geoff Lake Adviser Australian Local Government Association Sridhar Ayyalaraju Post Visit Controller DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Tegan Brink Deputy Visit Controller and Security Liaison Officer Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Melissa Eu Suan Goh Transport Liaison Officer and Consul DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Lauren Henschke Support Staff DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Maree Fay Accommodation Liaison Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Patricia McKinnon Communications Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Eugene Olim Paasport / Baggage Liaison Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Belinda Lee Adams
    Ms. Jacqui Ashworth Media Liaison Officer Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Patricia Smith Media Liaison Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Martin Bo Jensen Research and Public Diplomatic Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Mauro Kolobaric Consular Support DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Susan Flanagan Consular Support DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Stephen Kanaridis IT Support Officer DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. George Reid Support Staff DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Ashley Wright Support Staff DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Jodie Littlewood Support Staff DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Thomas Millhouse Support Staff DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Timothy Whittley Support Staff Driver DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Ms. Julia Thomson Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Donald Frater Chief of Staff to Minister Wong Office of the Minister for Climate Change and Water
    Ms. Jacqui Smith Media Liaison DFAT Diplomatic Mission of Australia to Denmark
    Mr. Greg French Senior Legal Advisor, Environment Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
    Mr. Jeremy Hillman Advisor PMO






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    looks about right

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    Im sure they have forgotten someone, somewhere.


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    I Agree - it is a joke - but for other reason

    The have only been recording weather for the last 160 years so how do they know that this is not some weather pattern that comes around every 200 or 500 years????

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    Who really cares? I don't care if they take the baggage boys pet snake. The main thing to me is that they do everything that they can to govern properly and if this is what they feel is needed (which they obviously do and have justified) then thats fine. A half assed effort would be worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnclv View Post
    I Agree - it is a joke - but for other reason

    The have only been recording weather for the last 160 years so how do they know that this is not some weather pattern that comes around every 200 or 500 years????
    That is a different thread.

    If you look back through it you can find some ice core data I posted - which goes back a LOT further than 160 years.

    Btw - thermometers (and temperature records - in some places) have been around since the early 1700s.

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    One thing I did notice about the list of personnal, is the surprising lack of names with ''Dr'' or ''Phd'', or ''Prof"" attached to them.
    I would of thought that input from such minds would have been important to the cause, as surely these people would have some idea on the best course of action to address climate control, or if we are just experiencing some sort of cyclical weather pattern.
    Plenty of advisors though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by td express View Post
    One thing I did notice about the list of personnal, is the surprising lack of names with ''Dr'' or ''Phd'', or ''Prof"" attached to them.
    I think the world scientific input has already been received. It is now time for some world political input. Of course, that is very much harder to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    I think the world scientific input has already been received. It is now time for some world political input. Of course, that is very much harder to do.
    What he said.

    Btw - "Mr. Stephan Rudzki" is a military medical doctor. I am not sure why they have left the titles out...?

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    This is a copy of an email which just arrived from senetor Steve Fielding.

    Thank you for signing my climate change petition and for demanding greater accountability of the Government.

    As supporters of the petition I wanted to give you a personal update of what I’ve been up to at the Copenhagen Climate Conference.

    Since I arrived in Copenhagen on Saturday I’ve been busy at the COP
    15 conference hearing numerous speakers as well as meeting with a number of politicians from around the world and various NGOs.

    One interesting person who I sat beside was Borjn Lomberg. Although Mr Lomberg is actually on the record as believing that carbon dioxide emissions are the leading cause of climate change, he was still very critical of scheme like the Rudd Government’s CPRS and thought it was bad public policy. According to Mr Lomberg, an ETS will not do anything to stop climate change and will just be a big windfall for the bankers and brokers and other financial institutions, while ordinary Australian families are left to foot the bill. Given that there is clearly a growing opposition to the government’s CPRS, and now even from people like Mr Lomberg who don’t have questions about the science, it’s now clearer than ever that we need a proper inquiry into the scheme before we go any further with it.

    As far as what is happening here in relation to negotiations between the different countries, to be blunt things are a total mess and it doesn’t appear likely that there’ll be any meaningful agreement by Friday.

    However, there is talk of a three tiered system which would see one rule for China and the US, another for developed nations and compensation for the rest.

    This is hardly a fair deal as it will disadvantage Australia and impact upon many hard working families. This is something we don’t want to see happen as it would destroy our economy and see thousands of jobs being booted offshore.

    Debate about whether man made carbon dioxide emissions are the main driver of climate change has been muted over here, but that only makes me more determined to find why the temperature over the last 15 years has remained steady while carbon dioxide emissions have sky rocketed.

    As things develop further I’ll keep you posted.

    Regards,

    Steve F


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