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In retrospect I have sometimes wondered about people doing a troll but it doesn't seem to hit me when I see someone asking for assistance/advice etc and I usually respond without thinking of the dark side of the internet.
I am probably too niave and gullible to be a contributor on the net as I treat people as genuine and honest so I suppose one day it will turn around and bite me.
Greetings All
I had a similar but not so extensive rough patch with the 99 TD5. While Craig may have been a tad harsh to a newbie, there is merit in some of his commentary. There's brand new cars of any version that are problematic so why use here as a vent session. We all have bits and pieces go at various (and mostly inconvenient) times, as thy say in the classics excretia happens!
Im certainly paying for the sins of my previous owner:mad:. However I view it as a chance to rebuild the bits I was only going to replace anyway. Afterall it is 11 years since 1999 so they arent showroom models.
Mind you the fuel pump blowing up in Sydney Harbour Tunnel was fun :p. NOW... wasnt amused at the time, dont think the traffic stream was either :angel:
But there again it wasnt our innamincka trip. So the tow to Rouse Hill wasnt as bad as a tow to say Broken Hill ;).
More with Crash, spent heaps building it back up again why stop now or ask for bullets. Every replacement is a newer better part thats maintained much more frequently than my prevous owner. End result is D2 will last and reliability has returned:). More of an arguement for a single bullet strategically placed between ones eyes if you repair it all up the get rid of it. Bizzare logic that one.
Just modulator and gearbox to go. Not thrilled about gearbox but new one will go in next month.
Only money that would be otherwise be spent on GST, increased power bills, increased water bills, increased gas bill, higher council rates, increased food costs, increased health insurance, tax :wasntme:
just my 20c
Mat
I certainly hope he finds some answers and you know I assist all comers where I can. I just dont think its good ethics to become a member of a site and then immediatelly bag the reason the site was set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by dullbird
If China44 is legit I welcome him with open arms and will do all I can to help, but negative posts as an introduction are not really helpfull either. I think the reference to costs annoyed me alittle, yes LR parts can be expensive, but go and price similar Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi etc parts.
The post could have been written in a less critical and more information required slant.
It is a shame he has had to spend so much money on the vehicle, but we have had similar with trolls before.
It is not just an LR problem I personally bought an XD Falcon that looked a million dollars and it was only after getting it home that the lack of maintenance started to become apparent, I will never buy from auction for this reason as you can not test drive. Also look at the issues with the new Captivas?
The issues he has had are not good and can be expensive, but its also a 7yo car that if a previous owner has not kept up maintenance is to be expected.
China44, it was not my intention to upset you and I do welcome you to the forum and hope it helps in the future.
Greetings All,
Well said Craig,
I must admit when I first read the post I questioned the realality of it , but put it down to me being tired and being jetlagged.
I dont wish this sort of problem car on anyone, but I just changed my fuel press reg, and yes its a bugger of a job, but thats the 2nd in 220,000ks and I was told to change them as a part of my 100,000 service as thats about thier life span. As for the other parts, we all know that you need to shop around as there is a big difference in prices between parts sellers..
It could also be a case of Him needing to source a new mechanic as I have read heaps of threads about people changing the ABS shuttle valve unit for a mis-diagnosis from a mechanic.
All these things will contribute to more $$$ being added to the bill.It could be He needs to start learning more about the mechanical side of the car, and with the help available from a great site such as this, it will certainly go along way to reducing the on-going car cost's, that lets face it are mostly wear and tear parts...ie brake rotors, Fuel Press Regs'
The Turbo is only the 2nd i've heard of Failing..But im not a L/R mechanic so it could be more common, but I did price a spare to take on the up-coming Canning trip and felt the $$$ not that bad..
I could Tell you some shocking stories about my AU 111 ford work ute, that seems to eat power steering pumps for no reason and the work that has needed for only having travelled 150,000 makes my Disco seem trouble free.
I hope that if He is for real ,Then Welcome and I hope your trouble's stop and that you use the knowledge and help available from the great people on this site to sort out any more issue's....If he's a troll, then I hope he goes back to where he came from..
Thats my 2cents worth..
Cheers Ean
well if he is a troll I congratulate him on doing his home work and being inventive as he must of read other peoples whining posts about there cars to come up with the problems that a D2 has:D...could of just said my car is a bag of **** and left it at that.....
Mate,
when I bought my Disco about 15 years ago (well, 14 actually), I was as happy as the proverbial pig. Until all the troubles started to pour down on me. It has cost me sweat, tears, money, learned me a whole set of new swear words (I even claim I invented some new ones), put a strain on my marriage (but now I can state it did something to strenghten it :cool:), I was on the verge of throwing in and buy something else from the crap sector. But I didn't, and, lo and behold, still own the vehicle. Now with the faults sorted (minor ones appear on a regular basis, though), it is my favourite car. Of course, I own more than one Land Rover (have to) in case one is off duty.
..."It's a Land Rover thing you wouldn't understand!"...
And that's the whole point. You could buy another manufacturer's car with all the bells and whistles. Even with less problems and better reliability. But you will never be able to purchase the spirit and comraderie of being a Land Rover owner.
As for the bullet, I recommend a Royal Enfield one!
Cheers
Having owned LR's for many years and worked on other makes for a few years too I can say that it is very very common to get people pulling thier hair out over vehicles and what it's costing them,the biggest problem I have found is tradesman seem to not want to learn these days they just stick with what they know and not learn the fobles of different makes and people don't want to spend the money,and mechanics don't spend the time to explain what needs to be done to keep thier vehicles in top condition.One thing that is apparent is that people will go on about how much power or how good thier new vehicle handles but they then complain about the cost to get that performance,everything has a price and that price is higher fuel use,higher tyre and brake wear and higher cost.The best advice I can give is do your own research or pay a LR mechanic to do it for you,not the bloke around the corner. Pat
Well SaidQuote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
The other thing is if you don't do the work yourself,properly,or take it to a SPECIALIST LR mechanc,you are gonna have continual problems.
I also found out the hard way,never take it to the Dealers....unless you want to pay high prices & have work half done.
ALL machinery needs proper servicing to keep it reliable no matter what brand it is...
Many LR's bought 2nd hand have more than likely not been serviced correctly by people that know these vehicles,or the previous owner had a go at doing it himself,& didn't know what he was doing.
People often buy a new vehicle,& loose thousands,often tens of thousands, in depreciation,but won't spend a cent on correct servicing,& then complain the vehicle is a heap of crap,when it fails.
Like tyres,they have a 100k vehicle & then hunt around for the cheapest tyres availabe.
It beats me....
So, who thinks this post was genuine????
I think a rabble rouser visits us from time to time, possibly back again and looking for "Hot Aussie Shiela's"
Still its amusing to see the amount sucked in...:wasntme:
But what's the alternative to responding DeeJay? If we view seemingly genuine thread starters as non genuine then all that will be left is a whole bundle of threads with one post from the originator. Or do we only respond to those 'known' members on the site. And no - I'm not trying to wind anyone up here - I just can't tell when some-one is genuine or not. It beats me.......sigh.