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8th January 2010, 08:35 PM
McDisco

Nicely said Simon.
8th January 2010, 08:36 PM
V8Ian

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Who really cares, he's obviously doing his job. Welcome to 2010 where we have things like instant communication - novel concept really. Because he is OS it doesn't mean that he's not in communication or that the country is all of a sudden without leadership.

... and he will still be a PM without opposition.

But in this age of instant communication, why do we have to foot the bill for these overseas jaunts. If it is essential to send a body for educational purposes, why do we send a politician instead of an expert in the relivant field?
8th January 2010, 09:58 PM
willem

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Originally Posted by lambrover

I like the rudd erless idea. with elections looming I reakon he will do less traverling, but to be honest I think it's worse that he took 100 plus people to the Copenhagen sumit or how ever you spell it. the cost of the trips is unbelievable how can it cost that much and stay somwhere and eat.

I wonder what the carbon footprint for that was! :eek::eek::eek:

Willem
8th January 2010, 10:00 PM
willem

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

... and he will still be a PM without opposition.

Hmmm ... we'll see.

Willem
8th January 2010, 10:55 PM
Slunnie

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

But in this age of instant communication, why do we have to foot the bill for these overseas jaunts. If it is essential to send a body for educational purposes, why do we send a politician instead of an expert in the relivant field?

I'm assuming you're being serious here????

If whoever is leading the show needs the information to make the best decisions, then the best place to get it is from the horses mouth.

Of course he needs to travel OS, he is the one that has Australia playing on the world stage as well as the national domestic issues. I've got no doubt that he has a million other things to do rather than go on pointless junkets like people would like to believe. If he doesn't need to be there, then he wont be there, but obviously he feels that to make the best decisions that he needs to be there - thats for him to decide as the elected Prime minister.

If he was making uninofrmed decisions or not having the best information available to him, or operating in a global context or whatever, then we'd still be complaining.
8th January 2010, 10:56 PM
Slunnie

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Originally Posted by willem

Hmmm ... we'll see.

Willem

Something will have to change between now and then in that case.
8th January 2010, 11:44 PM
V8Ian

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

I'm assuming you're being serious here????

If whoever is leading the show needs the information to make the best decisions, then the best place to get it is from the horses mouth.

Of course he needs to travel OS, he is the one that has Australia playing on the world stage as well as the national domestic issues. I've got no doubt that he has a million other things to do rather than go on pointless junkets like people would like to believe. If he doesn't need to be there, then he wont be there, but obviously he feels that to make the best decisions that he needs to be there - thats for him to decide as the elected Prime minister.

If he was making uninofrmed decisions or not having the best information available to him, or operating in a global context or whatever, then we'd still be complaining.

I'm not saying that Pollies should never go overseas, just that they seem to use any flimsy excuse for a junket. I believe the PM would have more need to travel than others. It is unrealistic to think that Brisbane City Councillers need to tour Europe and USA to see how their busses work.
9th January 2010, 12:03 AM
Slunnie

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

I'm not saying that Pollies should never go overseas, just that they seem to use any flimsy excuse for a junket. I believe the PM would have more need to travel than others. It is unrealistic to think that Brisbane City Councillers need to tour Europe and USA to see how their busses work.

I really don't think that it's a junket, I doubt any pm has time for that. Id bet that generally they do the PC thing and be seen and then get on with it - they wont have time to stuff around with so much going on.

I don't know what the BCC people are doing, but that sounds like it would be the most logical thing to do if they are looking to spend millions on vehicles or to revise a system that affects probably thousands and thousands of people - they will want to make sure everything is suitable.... or then they cop if for not being thorough in such basic but critical research- its their heads on the block, a lot of money wasted and a lot of ****ed people if they get it wrong.

Look at what business people travel OS for - a lot lot less than this because they know the value of being there in person.
9th January 2010, 07:33 AM
numpty

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Originally Posted by willem

Hmmm ... we'll see.

Willem

I believe that the country had had it's fill of ultra right wing conservatism when Little Johnny was voted out. Or are you suggesting there is another change coming in the ranks of would be Liberal leaders.
9th January 2010, 08:24 AM
V8Ian

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Originally Posted by numpty

I believe that the country had had it's fill of ultra right wing conservatism when Little Johnny was voted out. Or are you suggesting there is another change coming in the ranks of would be Liberal leaders.

They can't find one Numpty, what's with the plural?;):D

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