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    D2 driver falls in love with black SWB Defender Extreme - relationship ends badly

    Hi - spotted a tasty looking black SWB Defender Extreme, placed seductively at the front of a caryard today. Was curious for a drive, mainly to see how the manual Td5 went - realising that it is a detuned version relative to my manual D2. To say the relationship soured quickly is an understatement. I couldn't believe how rough this thing was given that: it looked so good; it shares quite a few mechanicals with the Disco; and it was made in 2005 rather than 1955; had only 100K k on the clock. It reminded me very much of driving a Series III when I was in the Army...exhaust fumes in the cab, vague steering, lots of body roll, uncomfortable, dicky controls, rough ride (admittedly this was a SW, coarse gutless motor. Now I realise some people actually like the fact that it's not too different to a SIII, and I admire their individuality...and durability. I really couldn't imagine touring in one of these things - getting back into my D2 felt like I'd instantly been upgraded to a D4. The interesting thing about this particular example is that some joker had fitted a 200-litre tank to the SWB, reducing it's cargo area even further! Presumably for Simpson crossing with a backpack in the back... Anyway, $38K seemed like a lot of money for a bit of skin deep 'character'. Bring on the hate mail (I do love the Defender-driving component of the LR brotherhood...really!) And to make you SWB Extreme drivers feel better, I actually got some chicks at the lights asking me about the car...haven't had that happen in the Disco before...or even in my old XB351 Coupe...
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    Them Defender pilots will tell you that us D2 pilots should stick to our Toorak Tractors,just you wait and see
    Shame it seemed so agricultural to a D2,I would have thought they would be a nice ride to own.
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    As a 110 Td5 owner, I concur that the motor seems rough and breathless on occasions.....unrevy. (Ron) It would seem there are a few problems with that particular vehicle though.
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    Better try yourself in a new one. When I had a drive of Scallops' I felt distinctly refined. Shouldn't be the case, but I was much relieved to get back into my agricultural implement.

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    big red has none of those issues...

    must just be those SWB ones....

    but not any of the ones Ive ridden in...

    perhaps that was the ugly duckling one?
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    How can a D2 driver understand a 90.....?

    They are such different beasts.

    I think this is in the category of "If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand"

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    and this from a guy that thinks minimalistic camping is a $30,000 bike with full pannier set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abaddonxi View Post
    Better try yourself in a new one. When I had a drive of Scallops' I felt distinctly refined. Shouldn't be the case, but I was much relieved to get back into my agricultural implement.
    And here I was thinking I'm a hard man.
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    Hey Pedro! I like 5 star holidays as well. And I like my L322 RR as well, when I want some luxury and quiet and refinement etc.

    But I still love "going basic" in the 90 as well.

    They are different tools.....

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    I have driven Phils 90 (in stock and chipped form) and even when stock it was light years ahead in power than my D2.

    When he chipped it, OMG

    The ride was rough yes, but not rough enough that it would be unbearable, I actually like driving Defenders, but then I like driving, hence why I have a manual D2 and not an auto

    I would say it probably was not looked after properly or was looked after by a non- LR mechanic and was in need of new shocks and springs AND some diagnostics to get the motor sorted.

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