Asbestos

I will throw something else into the ring.
Glass wool is not suppose to be good for you either.
I fail to see people in the insulation industry and fibre glass industry( fibre glass matting) treat glass fibres in the same way as asbestos.
Yes I know breathing filters etc are used industry.............but not always and not always in home projects like making surf boards.
Again smoking increase risk of possible problems.
Smoking reduces the body and lungs ability to reject the fibres.
The fibres which cannot be rejected do not tend to stay as passive with smokers.

Glass fibres are much less dangerous than asbestos for two reasons. Firstly, being non-crystalline, they do not tend to break as easily into very small bits, and secondly, glass is slightly soluble in bodily fluids, which means small particles usually dissolve rather than remaining as an irritant. And also, silicates (which glass is) are not generally carcinogenic. Most non-urban dust is composed mainly of silicates. On the other hand, as anyone who has used the stuff knows, glass fibres are definitely a skin irritant!

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Originally Posted by 101 Ron

I was not giving advice.

I was talking about asbestosis and not lung cancer.

I have recently been tested for asbestosis and no scaring.(due to my history)

Do some fact finding with links between asbestosis deaths and smoking history.

I was not recomending not to treat asbestos with caution.

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When you say "do some fact finding" do you mean "train and work as an asbestos assessor"? Because I literally have done that.

Cheers,

Adam

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Originally Posted by 101 Ron

I will throw something else into the ring.
Glass wool is not suppose to be good for you either.
I fail to see people in the insulation industry and fibre glass industry( fibre glass matting) treat glass fibres in the same way as asbestos.
Yes I know breathing filters etc are used industry.............but not always and not always in home projects like making surf boards.
Again smoking increase risk of possible problems.
Smoking reduces the body and lungs ability to reject the fibres.
The fibres which cannot be rejected do not tend to stay as passive with smokers.

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mate this sort of thing is exactly why you should stop dispensing advice/pronouncements on asbestos.

I was going to leave this but character flaws on my behalf preclude it.

Lost close folk because of asbestos and both non smokers forever.
I'm involved in the medical field and have relatives directly involved.
Spent hours with specialists watching my family members waste away.
Asbestos is an indiscriminate killer -the end.

Stay away from it.

I certainly don't want this personal or a slanging match.
Just a difference of information and experiences so far learnt.
That bloke who fought very hard for the compension from Hardies and tragically died I think before he could see it through.........a former smoker.
I friend I knew died of asbestosis and thought was a non smoker...........turns out smoked in his time in the navy (asbestos pipe lagging) and was wardrobe cigar smoker later in life.
About Eight people still live at Wittenoon..........and have been long term.
Guess what they have in common.
Every time I dig I find a connection.
Strangys story is the first I have heard with no smoking connection.
Then the famous story of the women as a girl played in the fibro pile and died of asbestosis many years later.......was a smoker in her older years.
It goes on.
I was pointing out over reaction to asbestos already in the work place at times.
I am not suggesting not to use common sense in handling asbestos.
Glass fibres appears to be a isuse in the glass wool insulation industry in the confined spaces of house roofs.
Then the true story of the lady who lived in Wiittenoon most of her life until she couldn't look after her self......in her 70s......guess if she smoked or not.
I just looking at things from a different angle.

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Originally Posted by 101 Ron

I certainly don't want this personal or a slanging match.
Just a difference of information and experiences so far learnt.
Thant bloke who fought very hard for the compension from Hardies and tragically died I think before he could see it through.........a former smoker.
I friend I knew died of asbestosis and thought was a non smoker...........turns out smoked in his time in the navy (asbestos pipe lagging) and was wardrobe cigar smoker later in life.
About Eight people still live at Wittenoon..........and have been long term.
Guess what they have in common.
Every time I dig I find a connection.
Strangys story is the first I have heard with no smoking connection.
Then the famous story of the women as a girl played in the fibro pile and died of asbestosis many years later.......was a smoker in her older years.
It goes on.
I was pointing out over reaction to asbestos already in the work place at times.
I am not suggesting not to common sense in handling asbestos.
Glass fibres appears to be a isuse in the glass wool insulation industry in the confined spaces of house roofs.
Then the true story of the lady who lived in Wiittenoon most of her life until she couldn't look after her self......in her 70s......guess if she smoked or not.
I just looking at things from a different angle.

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For smokers the deepest breath they take is when they drag on a cigarette or pipe. Most of us take shallow breaths most of the time in comparison.

bury my neighbour on Friday

Something from three or four years ago - "The most radioactive places on earth". The most radioactive place will surprise you, and is pertinent to this thread. I sure as hell wouldn't stuff around with asbestos though....

The Most Radioactive Places on Earth - YouTube

We are breathing in asbestos every day. Whether its from the natural erotion of the rock that happens daily and becomes air born world wide or from the bloke down the road renovating a house built pre 1980s we are all breathing asbestos. Asbestos is dangerous and everyone can tolerate different levels of exposure. Some may become ill with very little exposure and some may not become ill at all.
Common sense when handling asbestos is key. Wet down the surface thoroughly, wear some gloves, eye protection and a good quality mask and you'll be right. Dont angle grind any material with it and if you must make sure to be using a spray bottle to wet the surface as you do.