Thread: Punishment for road law breakers????

Depends what law is broken.

If someone kills someone on the road, it's not 'just another car accident'.

If someone speeds and ends up killing anyone other than themselves, I want to see them to time in a cell. And not just a few months time either, serious time.

Same if they are drunk or drugged.

You end someone's life, you should be locked up for the rest of yours.

Originally Posted by Sprint

before i vote..... if you want to punish people for speeding, whats the fine for travelling well under the posted speed limit without a valid reason?

It depends on the circumstances. I was once travelling at about 40 - 50 kmh in a 11o kmh zone in WA in a blinding rainstorm when a Valiant went past me at what must have been close to 110 kmh. He could not have had much more than a rough guess at where he was going. So who was dangerous?

Willem

Originally Posted by willem

It depends on the circumstances. I was once travelling at about 40 - 50 kmh in a 11o kmh zone in WA in a blinding rainstorm when a Valiant went past me at what must have been close to 110 kmh. He could not have had much more than a rough guess at where he was going. So who was dangerous?

Willem

I have seen signs in one or two places that say "100km/hr, it's a limit not a target".

Safe driving obviously means driving to the conditions (traffic, weather,...) and being courteous of others. There really needs to be two limits a top and a bottom and of course in enforcing the bottom there needs to be latitude by officers. Here, on this side of the ditch, officers can ticket someone for driving too slow, especially of they are creating a traffic hazard.

Alan

Originally Posted by D-Fender

Depends what law is broken.

If someone kills someone on the road, it's not 'just another car accident'.

If someone speeds and ends up killing anyone other than themselves, I want to see them to time in a cell. And not just a few months time either, serious time.

Same if they are drunk or drugged.

You end someone's life, you should be locked up for the rest of yours.

I reckon prison sentences (in most cases) are a mistake ... but finding an effective alternative is not easy!

Why? because prison sentences just put people into a context of lots of criminals and others where they often they learn criminal conduct. So prisons become schools for criminals ... at taxpayers' expense! Its also a cruel form of punishment.

There should be just, and severe if necessary, punishment for wrongdoers. I just reckon prison is a lousy way of doing it, where nobody benefits. Not the victims, not society, not the taxpayers, and not the offenders.

Prisons should only be used for remand centres, and for prisoners who are simply too dangerous to release.

Willem

Originally Posted by willem

It depends on the circumstances. I was once travelling at about 40 - 50 kmh in a 11o kmh zone in WA in a blinding rainstorm when a Valiant went past me at what must have been close to 110 kmh. He could not have had much more than a rough guess at where he was going. So who was dangerous?

Willem

as i said...... without a valid reason.....

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Originally Posted by Sprint

as i said...... without a valid reason.....

Like the Mongol who I followed back to Ocean Grove tonight, I was car 8 in a 14 car convoy following this spastic at 60km/hr in a 100 zone, 2 erratic overtaking people didn;t seem to give the hint, why don;t these idiots look behind and realise, oh that stream of cars would like to get past me and pull over, some people think its there right that they are travelling "fast enough" in there terms and others should follow suit, assholes

I said care for victims as I think that would slow up a decent person.

However IMHO throwing the book at people who exceed arbitrarily set speed limits by a few K is entirely about making money, not road safety.

If you want to save real lives I could come up with a number of options that have been proven to work, but are costly. Brainwashing the public and then booking them on mass is revenue positive and gives people a nice warm feeling that they are doing something.

Speed doesn't kill - inappropriate speed for the conditions can be dangerous though.