Victorian Road Rules

Yeh the labor government will do anything for votes bring kennet back. Its all very well to constantly target motorists who drive around burning precious fossil fuel but we don't have any other choice Melbourne's public transport is ******* hopeless.

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Originally Posted by SPROVER

Yeah most cops here in Vic have nothing else better to do then dish out demerit points and point there speed cameras at you while you do 2 kmh over the limit.He could have at least gave you a warning.But being the *****s they are he didnt.:mad: Maybe you should have offered him a bribe.They seem to be pretty good at taking them.:D:wasntme:

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Originally Posted by v12stuart

Yeh thats the first post. Look im most ****ed off about the fact that i lost 3 points for having my Ps 'obscured' by having a filthy back window (which is the same amount of points as driving on the wrong side of double lines and doing up to 25ks over the speed limit which is impossible in the rangy :) ) I'm pretty sure having 'obscured' Ps hasn't killed anyone. The high powered vehicles thing is also rubbish i have an 19yrold mate with an mitsu evo 9 with 550bhp and 750nm of torque and he has an exemption because it has 4 doors it can be considered a family car... go figure

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Don't think I can come on board with some of your gripes. I can't count how many times that "P" plates are hidden: by too dark window tinting; being so far up behind a number plate that only a bit of white plastic is visible; have even seen where a driver has cut the red letter "P" off the white plastic background and stuck it on the paintwork of a similarly coloured red car.

These are not new laws, it has been an offence to obscure "P" plates since "P" plates were introduced in the 1970's, it has become such a problem that in NSW it is now illegal to display a "P" plate from inside a car.

"P" plates are not there so that the Police know who to randomly pull over. They are there to inform other drivers that the person behind the wheel of the car does not have as much driving experience as most of the others on the road. Personally when I see a red "P" plate and even green ones I know to leave that little bit more room, because while "P" plate drivers think they drive like Michael Schumaker, they often drive like Mr Bean.

I can agree with you on the point of high powered cars though. It is absurd that a driver with less than two or three years of driving experience can drive powerful cars. The system should be based on the power to weight ratio of the car, it should be a graduated scale where the greater the ratio the less passengers you can carry. More than that there should no exceptions because it is the family car or anything of the like. But think yourself lucky, in NSW even the Rangy would be considered a too powerful car.

Well technically in vic the rangy is too powerful because its a V8 even though it puts out about 50hp on a good day. Cops dont pick me up on it though. And the high power vehicle laws used to be based on power to weight but they stupidly changed it. You can drive a lotus exige on Ps without any need for an exemption. ?????

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Originally Posted by v12stuart

Well technically in vic the rangy is too powerful because its a V8 even though it puts out about 50hp on a good day. Cops dont pick me up on it though. And the high power vehicle laws used to be based on power to weight but they stupidly changed it. You can drive a lotus exige on Ps without any need for an exemption. ?????

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Sweet... thats what I would be driving... if I could afford one :cool:

i'm glad i got my lisence when i did none of this p plate crap and we could and did drive around in single and twin spinner ford custom lines with a thumping great flat head v8 under the bonnet and the sensible ones survived and i think its the same today , but as far as the law is concerned the goverment have to raise money some how

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Originally Posted by v12stuart

Well technically in vic the rangy is too powerful because its a V8 even though it puts out about 50hp on a good day. Cops dont pick me up on it though. And the high power vehicle laws used to be based on power to weight but they stupidly changed it. You can drive a lotus exige on Ps without any need for an exemption. ?????

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problem was power-to-weight rules were too difficult to enforce. Cops used a "little book" of stats and figures and their accuracy was questionable. in other words, too much work :p
Again, was just easier to put a blanket ban on turbo's and V8's. Pretty funny when you look at what a fresh, red P-plater can hop into...

LEGAL:
BMW M3 (upto E46)
Porsche GT3
Lotus Exige
Nissan 370Z

but heaven forbid you jump into the old man's 3.5l D1 Discovery to go down the shops!

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

"P" plates are not there so that the Police know who to randomly pull over. They are there to inform other drivers that the person behind the wheel of the car does not have as much driving experience as most of the others on the road. Personally when I see a red "P" plate and even green ones I know to leave that little bit more room, because while "P" plate drivers think they drive like Michael Schumaker, they often drive like Mr Bean.

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You know just as well as I do that cops target P platers viciously thats why people often don't display their Ps because they don't wont to be "randomly" pulled over. In my case i just had dust and filth on my back window it wasn't intentional.

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Originally Posted by v12stuart

You know just as well as I do that cops target P platers viciously thats why people often don't display their Ps because they don't wont to be "randomly" pulled over. In my case i just had dust and filth on my back window it wasn't intentional.

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hence why he would've said something along the lines of "it's your responsibility to make sure the plates are visible"

most P-platers get done coz the rear one will fall down onto the parcel shelf or something and they dont realise. If it takes an extra couple seconds to make sure your plates are visible, then that's what you'll have to do.

But chin up, you only get hassled for 3 years. not much considering you'll be driving for 50 odd years more!

edit: and where's ItsNotWorthComplaining? he needs to post just so his username is present :p

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Originally Posted by robzilla

most P-platers get done coz the rear one will fall down onto the parcel shelf or something and they dont realise.

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Rubbish! They lay them there so that they can claim that. They don't want to appear like they have P plates.

Most P plates I see exceed the speed limit. I usually drive at about 120 km/h on the motorway and I get get passed all the time by P-platers.