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    GPS Legalities in NSW

    About 8am on Saturday morning on my way to Lidsdale State Forest I was waved into a breathalyzer queue by the police. The officer took a long look at the (empty) mounting bracket on my dashboard and asked what I put in it. I replied that it held an iPad for navigation which quite surprised him. Being the cautious type I don't have the iPad in the mounting bracket whilst travelling on tar as I wouldn't want an officer mistakenly thinking that I had it there for entertainment or email purposes.

    Anyway, the point is that the officer questioned the legality of having the iPad there on the grounds that it obstructed my vision. I assured him it doesn't. Since the iPad wasn't mounted at the time he didn't take the matter any further. However he did note that police are now tending to regard larger windscreen mounted GPS units as obstructing the driver's vision. From the context of the conversation, I interpreted "larger GPS" to mean 5" or 6" and above.

    I've included a photo of my iPad mount for context, but would note that the photo is taken below the driver's eye-level so in the photo it appears to block more of the windscreen than it actually does. Mostly, the iPad obscures my view of the bonnet, not of the road.

    I have to review the mounting position because when I use the car's heater it heats up the back of the iPad. One day it got to the point where the iPad decided that it was no longer within it's operating parameters so it gave me a warning message then shut down. When I do that review, I will also take the policeman's comments into account and endeavor to position the mount somewhere that is less controversial. That might mean half obscuring the hazard switch though... and adding some deflectors to redirect air from the rectangular vents away from the back of the iPad.


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    It would be quite ok on my 130, it would only obscure my view of the spare tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymie View Post
    It would be quite ok on my 130, it would only obscure my view of the spare tyre.
    LOL. It's a good thing the spare tyre isn't electronic because then it would probably be illegal.

    I did refrain from pointing out to the officer that the empty bracket obscures almost as much of my vision as it does when the iPad is present...

    He also gave my tyres a long hard look but I think he was mainly assessing the amount of tread. The tyres are standard size (235x85xr16) so it wouldn't have been a problem if he'd wanted to check further.

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    There is a legal definition of the position of the driver's eyes. A point 730 mm aboveand 270 mm forward of the junction of the seat cushion and seat back with the seat in its lowest and rearmost position. Accessories must not be in the driver's line of sight in such a way as to impede a view of the road.

    I wonder what our sheriffs and deputies would make of a Passport/Escort GPS navigator that also has a laser/radar detection function which is not obvious to the uninitiated. It can be said to be a WiFi connection locator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    There is a legal definition of the position of the driver's eyes. A point 730 mm aboveand 270 mm forward of the junction of the seat cushion and seat back with the seat in its lowest and rearmost position. Accessories must not be in the driver's line of sight in such a way as to impede a view of the road.

    I wonder what our sheriffs and deputies would make of a Passport/Escort GPS navigator that also has a laser/radar detection function which is not obvious to the uninitiated. It can be said to be a WiFi connection locator.
    Thanks - I'll keep that in mind when I review the iPad location.

    I've always wondered about the usefulness of a laser detector - wouldn't your speed already have been measured by the time the detector alerted you to the presence of the laser? I'm happy with the warnings from my TomTom for fixed location speed cameras and anyway I don't think I've ever been booked for speeding in the Defender...

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    I have mine way over on the left hand side so that it isn't really in the way unless I have a passenger. Luckily I have no friends so no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVR110 View Post
    Thanks - I'll keep that in mind when I review the iPad location.

    I've always wondered about the usefulness of a laser detector - wouldn't your speed already have been measured by the time the detector alerted you to the presence of the laser? I'm happy with the warnings from my TomTom for fixed location speed cameras and anyway I don't think I've ever been booked for speeding in the Defender...
    Have a look at their web site. They claim to give early warning.
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    Have a look at their web site. They claim to give early warning.
    My recollection from years ago is that they can "see" the signal if the cop targets someone in front ( or behind) for quite a distance, BUT of course if there isn't much traffic you are on your own.

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    Do you mind (RVR110) telling what maps and apps you use on the iPad and your happiness level with it?

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    its actualy ilegal because the dash has to be impact friendly and loose items.

    not that all of the other junk availabe is.the funny one i come across is chrome parts on the steering or indicators.

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