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    I did the simpson and a few others last August with Hema 4x4 maps and the Hema explorer, the Hema 4x4 was invaluable where as the explorer was a pain unless you knew where you were going before and downloaded a section of desert that you wanted information on, the Hema 4x4 is the ducks nuts as far as I'm concerned. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooroo View Post
    FYI: I purchased Mud Map some time ago to use on my iPad. Recently Apple updated their operating system. I received an email from Mud Map saying thanks for your support (read 'money') but we will no longer support the old operating system. Buy the new version of MudMap ($100) if you want to. They offered a $25 discount as I had already bought their expensive app.
    What's to stop them doing this again? Nothing. They did not even reply to my very civil email.
    In conclusion, I will not be giving them any more money. I'll stick with OziExplorer which I have or HEMA if I need it.
    I never thought MudMap was all that good anyway.
    You're quite a prophet, as they have basically abandoned MM2 and are pushing MM3. They've also abandoned TheMap. I'm damned if I'll give them any more money. Unfortunately I have bought the whole of Vic in 1:25k, so am into the app for probably $150.

    Is there an alternative that provides maps as good as MM, but from a developer that has some ethics and doesn't screw their users?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winaje View Post
    You're quite a prophet, as they have basically abandoned MM2 and are pushing MM3. They've also abandoned TheMap. I'm damned if I'll give them any more money. Unfortunately I have bought the whole of Vic in 1:25k, so am into the app for probably $150.

    Is there an alternative that provides maps as good as MM, but from a developer that has some ethics and doesn't screw their users?
    They won't be getting another cent of my money.
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    I've been very happy with Memory Map on my IPad (and on my Samsung phones). Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by winaje View Post
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    Is there an alternative that provides maps as good as MM, but from a developer that has some ethics and doesn't screw their users?
    As already said about OziExplorer, you can use whatever map you like as long as you can make it compatible via the appropriate software.

    Ozi for Android can be used standalone, but is so much better when used with the desktop software.
    (didn't realise that the desktop software is so expensive now tho!)

    OziExplorer (for desktop) has the ability to use the Open Street Map map system, but only in realtime(ie. whilst online), and there is no OSM maps available(that I can find) that can be converted to an image format to suit Ozi in any way.
    So far I've had to klutz around using screen captures of OSM map areas, and convert to jpg, to then convert to ozfx4 and so on .. ie. a lot of mucking about to get not very far.

    I am slowly working on making usable maps for OziAndroid from OSM maps.

    For Ozi, a map that is highly recommended is the Hema 4WD maps product that comes on DVD(can be bought from the Ozi website).
    The 150K seamless map is one of the best for exploring any part of the country.

    The one major 'Pro' about Ozi For Android that stuee missed out on in his summary, is the ability to configure the screens to your liking. And if you can't figure out a workable screen for Ozi(for Android) then you would have to be impossible to please.
    So add the Android screen designer software as another 'Pro' to stuee's list.

    The Android screen designer runs on a Windows PC and allows you to completely reconfigure the screen layout to show more or hide more features. I think it allows up to 10 different screens(I generally use 4 or 5 main ones, and a few other's for trivial info).
    Why this is important is that with newer model tables coming to market with higher resolution screens, you can eke out a lot more area for any given map. It's nice to have nice, large, fat finger capable touch buttons to play with, but in standard guise they waste too much map space.

    Another downside to Ozi, is trying to get any mapping of the bulk of central Aus at lower than about 100K resolution.

    Personally I don't trust Google's satellite maps, as they can be massively outdated too, giving a false sense of security to the viewer thinking they're seeing the real thing.
    I prefer to know that my old map is 20years old, and can be outdated .. rather than thinking that the view from the sky is the real thing .. only to get there and find the track doesn't exist like it used too 5 years ago!

    I know this thread is an old, but if anyone needs(only legit) maps for OziExplorer PM me and I can help.

    The other point missing in stuee's Pro/Con list for Ozi, is simply the hidden cost of maps you will almost certainly want for it.
    There are many free(as in freely available as well as free $s) maps you can get yourselves, but the really good maps cost. IIRC Hema 4WD DVD cost close to $200-ish.
    Festy's old map collection is free tho(or at least it was).
    The other map product worth considering for Ozi is the ExplorOZ map product. Note just the map and not the software to use it. I don't have it(preferred the Hema) but once a bit more $s come my way I may just get it to have that too.

    The Cons for Ozi (for me) are kind'a insignificant .. ie. of low importance!
    My only gripe with Ozi for Android is that it's become unstable beyond v1.25. (that is I use v1.25 still).
    If I load any version beyond that(I think v1.27 and 1.28) it shuts down after a randomly selected time. There is no rhyme or reason. I thought it may have to do with screen lighting timeout, but that feature operated the other way around.
    That is Ozi kept the screen active whilst it was running. I downloaded a program to keep the screen alive, and found that Ozi still shut down, but now the screen stayed active.
    No replies from Des or the Ozi team as to what's going on with this.

    The reason I'd like to update to later than v1.25 is that beyond that, it has the ability to set a look-ahead value, so that more of the map is visible in the direction of travel and less behind. Great feature when you're (still)exploring whilst moving.
    They had this ability in the old Android CE version .. I missed it in the Android version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winaje View Post
    You're quite a prophet, as they have basically abandoned MM2 and are pushing MM3. They've also abandoned TheMap. I'm damned if I'll give them any more money. Unfortunately I have bought the whole of Vic in 1:25k, so am into the app for probably $150.

    Is there an alternative that provides maps as good as MM, but from a developer that has some ethics and doesn't screw their users?
    I hope Hema isn't doing the same thing as I downloaded the updates for my HN7 cost $75, but noticed they only go up to 2018, I hope they are not trying to push people down the new HX-1 path.
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    I nearly plumped for the HX-1 as a couple of weeks ago on the way up to Blackbutt my Hema HN7 stopped working, but after diving the car a few days I noticed it complaining of low battery so I thought I'd be up for a new battery, but then I decided to try using the original charger instead of the 2-1 I had been using, and it is working nicely once again.
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    I have been using OziExplorer for quite some time now, I purchased the original beta s/w when it was $25 aus. As others have said you can use various maps, my main ones being Hema and Natmap.

    As for licensing I have transferred it to several devices over the years and used my same password with no issues, this may have changed over time so if someone cares to try it would be keen to hear back out of curiosity. I downloaded the s/w to my phone, was handy when bushwalking.

    Regards
    Geoff

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    Hi,
    I had to contact Ozi to use it on a new tablet. The Password is some how tied to the serial number of the tablet.
    I provided the details of the new and old tablet and was provided with a new password,
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by austastar View Post
    Hi,
    I had to contact Ozi to use it on a new tablet. The Password is some how tied to the serial number of the tablet.
    I provided the details of the new and old tablet and was provided with a new password,
    Cheers
    So it has been changed, there you go. You wonder why as I am guessing there was no fee involved?

    Regards

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