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Thread: Mud Maps2 VS Hema VS Oziexplorer

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy View Post
    ..... As others have said you can use various maps, my main ones being Hema and Natmap.

    ....
    Which versions of Hema and Natmap are you using?
    If you want some good Victorian maps for Ozi, I can highly recommend GetLost's maps.

    Back in the really early days, a group of us came across some freely downloadable 25K Vic Firemaps that were legal to use(just not distribute).
    Problem was they were all individual sheets, so in Ozi(moving map) there was the issue of map boundary(as opposed to sheet boundary) ..
    We all edited the maps so that boundaries were at the map extents rather than edges of sheet.
    Made moving maps a lot more usable.
    These maps were pretty much the bees knees for 4WDing too.
    That I know of, HEMA don't have high resolution maps for Ozi(maybe 150K) which is fine for touring main places, but not enough track details on the whole.
    This is what the old Firemaps gave.
    I ended up turning the 1000+ Firemaps into two sheets to cover East Vic and West Vic myself(took forever).

    Anyhow, I had what I kind'a needed, and as I found old/new detail, Ozi allows you to edit maps as you require too.
    The hard part was finding new detailed maps that don't cost the earth.
    This is where GetLost comes in.

    Have a look for them, if you want super high(for 4WDing) detail in Vic, these are the best so far(I've seen) for Ozi.
    GetLost also has some other states if required.

    Note that the the entire state is a huge download too. eg. Vic East and Vic West are a tad over 8Gb download.
    I now run Ozi on an oldish Lenovo M10 .. not huge specced tablet, but these 8Gb OZF4s run fine for panning and scanning.

    Very highly recommended for Ozi if you don't already have them. (if you do get them, go for the East/West sheets, not the individual maps).

    NatMaps don't change all that much over the years(if you are referring to the 250K series).
    Cheers,
    Arthur.

    '99 D1 300 Tdi Auto

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    My Hema maps are around 2011/2013 vintage, apart from the 250K I have several others covering specific areas the cape york maps are quite good.

    I have used the CFA maps for Vic and being older do show tracks that are no longer there, I have been caught out on this a couple of times. I have another set of maps a mate gave to me and I don't know who they belong to suffice to say they are better than the CFA maps however they are individual tiles and I have not bothered to knit them together.

    Apart from the Hema and Natmap (I don't use Natmap that often any more) I have some Rooftop, Outback Vic, Westprint and High country Vic Maps, they all have their individual benefits.

    I guess the message here is when deciding on a mapping application, from my experience there are a vast number of map providers that can be used on Ozi (and I know how to drive it). A couple of years ago I plotted and mapped a route to a place called Dragon Tree Soak, for some reason it appears on most maps in WA a little green rectangle between Sandfire Roadhouse and Broome but further east. There are no tracks at all and without OziExplorer it would have been a significant challenge. Was hard enough as it was, but that is another story.

    Regards
    Geoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy View Post
    ....

    I have used the CFA maps for Vic and being older do show tracks that are no longer there, I have been caught out on this a couple of times ......

    That's half the fun.
    I use some Openmap data via OSMAnd. I don't like the cartoony look of these vector maps, but still usable. I've found a few tracks in the Mt Dissapointment area not yet marked, or wrongly marked too.
    I think been updated since .. so it's always a works in progress with maps.

    Those GetLost maps I referred will be familiar to you if you like the Firemaps, and they don't show every gate and farm track like Firemaps do. A bit more updated too ..

    While it's easy to edit in a new track, it's very hard to edit out a non-existent track .. basically not really worth the effort.

    Also note:
    While the GetLost East/West maps are nice, I just had a look and the west map is perfectly usable, but their current East map is missing a huge chunk of map around the Wonthaggi area, so not worth downloading it(yet).
    Cheers,
    Arthur.

    '99 D1 300 Tdi Auto

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    Hi,
    On our trip last year, I decided to just use Hema on the Tablet. I also subscribed to the extra detail maps for 12 months (on line, but downloadable if needed off line).
    It did everything I wanted, with the occasional use of OziExplorer (when I had maps of the location), Oztoppo and ofcourse Google Maps.
    Hema would, at times, stop running when it flagged the Tablet overheating. Loss of breadcrumb trail was the only issue, but 5 minutes or so in the a.c. stream would allow it to be restarted.
    I have recently bought a Garmin Navigator RV 770 with the full Oztoppo maps and Hema maps on a micro ssd. Still early days on the learning curve, but I'm thinking freeing up the Tablet by using the Garmin will be easier. Although not in the documentation, I can get breadcrumb tracks and routes off the unit without Basecamp, and into other mapping programs. It also does screen shots.
    I might do a "how to" if there is any interest.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by austastar View Post
    Hi,
    On our trip last year, I decided to just use Hema on the Tablet. I also subscribed to the extra detail maps for 12 months (on line, but downloadable if needed off line).
    It did everything I wanted, with the occasional use of OziExplorer (when I had maps of the location), Oztoppo and ofcourse Google Maps.
    Hema would, at times, stop running when it flagged the Tablet overheating. Loss of breadcrumb trail was the only issue, ...........................

    Cheers
    Does anyone know how to leave a breadcrumb trail on a HEMA HN7 from what I've seen on the HEMA site it only seems to be possible on a HX-1?

    Also on the subject of breadcrumbs, I have seen the trail move a few hundred metres off from actual in bad weather, that was on my car's inbuilt Eclipse AVN-6000, so not sure if it can happen on other units, so watch out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post
    ......have seen the trail move a few hundred metres off from actual in bad weather, that was on my car's inbuilt Eclipse AVN-6000....
    Hi,
    Rain on the vehicle or wet trees overhead can soak up the gps signal. More so with the earlier chip sets rather the more modern versions.
    Cheers

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