Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26

Thread: Mud Maps2 VS Hema VS Oziexplorer

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Williams West Aust
    Posts
    20,992

    Mud Maps2 VS Hema VS Oziexplorer

    Hi Guys.
    Looks like I have decided to get a Samsung GalaxyS 10.5 Tablet(its the upgraded quicker G4 version) for navigation use,plus internet etc etc etc whilst traveling.
    From other threads I belive the 3 off-road Navigation apps to choose from are Mud Maps 2,Hema,Oziexplorer.Which and why would you reccomend????
    I realise I need to purchase mapping to suit.
    Also will be running Tom Tom as an app.This tablet can run 2 "windows" at once.Will I need to get a bluetooth GPS reciever to keep them running together????
    Andrew
    DISCOVERY IS TO BE DISOWNED
    Midlife Crisis.Im going to get stuck into mine early and ENJOY it.
    Snow White MY14 TDV6 D4
    Alotta Fagina MY14 CAT 12M Motor Grader
    2003 Stacer 525 Sea Master Sport
    I made the 1 millionth AULRO post

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Alice Springs, NT
    Posts
    254
    I quite like mud maps 2 but I have imported hema maps into it as well as some others. Memory maps is also good if you already have maps. But I don't have experience with any other. My brother in law reckons shonky maps (not s joke) which I think runs on garmin is the best - you can get that on the tablet.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Kallaroo, WA
    Posts
    42
    Quote Originally Posted by synthium View Post
    I quite like mud maps 2 but I have imported hema maps into it as well as some others. Memory maps is also good if you already have maps. But I don't have experience with any other. My brother in law reckons shonky maps (not s joke) which I think runs on garmin is the best - you can get that on the tablet.
    I have Mud maps which shows a lot of potential but im having trouble finding a decent detailed map to work with, they all seem to be on quite a large scale with no detail when zoomed in.

    How did you import Hema maps into mudmaps?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Currently Italy but home is Melbourne
    Posts
    66

    No MudMap for me

    FYI: I purchased Mud Map some time ago to use on my iPad. Recently Apple updated their operating system. I received an email from Mud Map saying thanks for your support (read 'money') but we will no longer support the old operating system. Buy the new version of MudMap ($100) if you want to. They offered a $25 discount as I had already bought their expensive app.
    What's to stop them doing this again? Nothing. They did not even reply to my very civil email.
    In conclusion, I will not be giving them any more money. I'll stick with OziExplorer which I have or HEMA if I need it.
    I never thought MudMap was all that good anyway.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Williams West Aust
    Posts
    20,992
    I purchased the top model 4G Samsung 10.5 Galaxy TabS yesterday,a tad overkill for mapping/GPS but it will take care of internet etc whilst away from home,plus it can stream music etc into the D4,plus many other uses.MUCH cheaper than the factory GPS option.
    I will be running Tom Tom on it as an app.
    Still awaiting more advice on off road mapping,it seems we are down to Hema or Ozi explorer,or both.It can run a 128gb SD card so storage isnt a problem.
    Awaiting more advice.
    Cheers
    Andrew
    DISCOVERY IS TO BE DISOWNED
    Midlife Crisis.Im going to get stuck into mine early and ENJOY it.
    Snow White MY14 TDV6 D4
    Alotta Fagina MY14 CAT 12M Motor Grader
    2003 Stacer 525 Sea Master Sport
    I made the 1 millionth AULRO post

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,180
    Andy, I've been researching this at the moment and was about to put up a thread myself asking for input. For me its between two contenders, Ozi Explorer and Memory Map (which is the same as Hema Explorer app - same base software). I'll be trialling both at Wilbinga next weekend but cant seem to pick one now. It seems a bit like Apple vs Android in that once you settle on one and start investing in maps etc you cant easily change over.

    Firstly, with Android 4.4+ Memory Map cant store maps to the SD card, so keep that in mind with your tablet and how you store music and movies (i.e put those on a class 10 SD card):
    Frequently Asked Questions :: Loading maps to SD card on Android

    This doesn't affect Ozi it seems as being a third party app (i.e not through the play store) you appear to be able to choose the location your maps are stored.

    I've got a bunch of pros and cons for each, I'm trying to lean towards Ozi being an Australian product but its not necessarily working out that way at the moment. The biggest gripe for me highlighted below is that its not clear if you can transfer your Android license or how many devices it is for. Its pretty clear with Memory Map you get 2 PC's and 2 mobile devices and they can change. With memory map this means when I change my old 10 inch tablet out for a new one I don't need to fork out an additional $25 and I can run it on my phone (or wife's tablet) as a backup.

    OziExplorer Pros:
    - Can put maps anywhere on device
    - Programs available make it easy to rip google maps (satellite view) directly to OziExplorer format.
    - Aussie made
    - More functionality around tracks, waypoints etc.
    - Useful apps about for converting large size jpeg or tiff map files to smaller OZF files.
    - Wider file support

    OziExplorer Cons:
    - Buying maps more involved, need to buy DVD's or go to third part websites to download.
    - Base cost is $25USD for android app and $109USD for PC version
    - Cant find information on android licensing transfer (i.e. if I change device do I need to pay another $25)
    - Android interface not quite as simple.
    - Need to go out and buy DVD for 25k WA topo maps

    Memory Map Pros:
    - Easy to get maps through map store
    - Base cost $50USD (so I can import my own maps)
    - Licensing system transparent (generally a 2PC plus 2 android setup with ability to change devices easily
    - More map support appearing and able to download immediately as well as speculation more will be going with Memory Map due to encrypted maps leading to less copyright theft.
    - Hema updating Memory Maps more often than the DVD Ozi Explorer versions.
    - Android interface simpler
    - Get hema base 250k map which is quite good.
    - Can get 25k WA topo maps very easily.
    - Maps seem cheaper overall.

    Memory Map Cons:
    - Maps only download as you scroll through unless you download the files directly and move them into the appropriate folders:
    Index of /mapchunks
    - Maps restricted to phone storage (need to make sure I always get the 32GB devices now).
    - Requires 3 calibration points in order to give co-ordinates on map.
    - More steps to rip google maps though it is possible (and involves using trial version of Ozi Explorer to add calibration points)
    - Far less functionality in android app compared to Ozi (but does 99% of what I want anyway)


    Neither application has a good pc to mobile device interface yet. You need to manually copy maps, tracks, way points etc across manually.

    Logically I'm leaning towards Memory Map as it looks to be developing faster (might bring the last bit of functionality I want down the track), and does pretty much what I want now at a lower cost, but I'm happy to be swayed the other way. If MM's map support was wider and conversion function more straight forward I probably would have bought it already. If there was an online shop with and equivalent range of maps at similar prices for download OziExplorer would probably have it right now. Ill probably be purchasing one or the other after next weekend when I try both out.

    If anyone disagrees with above pros and cons let me know and I can change them.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,180
    I got my Bluetooth GPS and ram mounts in the mail on Monday so gave both programs a run on the way to and from work yesterday. In the car I have to say that OziExplorer has the edge. I've put some of my experiences below.

    When changing between maps Ozi gave you nice big text lines to press instead of selecting some small text in a tight list.

    Another benefit was better zoom options, memory map wouldn't let me zoom out enough from my detailed maps so I would have to change map to get out further, this actually really annoyed me.

    Memory maps ability to automatically change between maps when you zoomed in and out was sometimes useful and other times a pain so it was easier to leave off. Using your fingers to zoom out on memory map also wasn't as nice as it should be, if you accidentally moved the map as you put your fingers on the screen any zoom change you made would revert once the map stopped moving.

    I favored the icons on the screen for zooming in both applications and OziExplorers way of representing axillary data like compass heading and speed etc was nicer and took up less screen real estate than Memory Map. Looking online last night I found that both apps can be customized but the main difference for memory map is that you need to pull down a page from the top of the screen that then reduces map size. Ozi simply places the information over the top of the map in a nice side bar.

    In terms of tracks I don't like how memory Map works. It starts a new track after you've been stopped for a while or after a certain distance. This would annoy me if I was on a big trip as I would want a single continuous track for the trip, not a new one for every day. You also get no say on how often it records your position and you have to wait till your track has started before you can enter the line size and colour. OziExplorer had a clear advantage in this area.

    I'm still going to run both over the weekend but in the car to work Ozi is the app I'd want to run.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,180
    I also got this response from Ozi Explorer over licensing.

    >1. Does the $25 license cover only one android device?

    We do supply additional licenses for other devices you own.

    >2. Can Android licenses be transferred to another Android device at a
    >later date (for example if I purchase a new tablet) and how is this
    >achieved? My concern around this is if a tablet breaks on holiday can I
    >easily use my wife's tablet to run a licensed version of OziExplorer
    >instead.

    As above.
    So basically you can get more than one license but its still an email process to get it sorted. The good thing is that I had a response to my question within a day.

    I have to say my choice is leaning more towards OziExplorer now.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Canberra/Melbourne
    Posts
    1,711
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooroo View Post
    FYI: I purchased Mud Map some time ago to use on my iPad. Recently Apple updated their operating system. I received an email from Mud Map saying thanks for your support (read 'money') but we will no longer support the old operating system. Buy the new version of MudMap ($100) if you want to. They offered a $25 discount as I had already bought their expensive app.
    What's to stop them doing this again? Nothing. They did not even reply to my very civil email.
    In conclusion, I will not be giving them any more money. I'll stick with OziExplorer which I have or HEMA if I need it.
    I never thought MudMap was all that good anyway.
    The same thing happened to me. I purchased Mudmaps very early on and paid over $200 for it from memory. Not happy at all. They won't get another cent from me.
    On the other hand I can speak highly enough of Tom Tom for on road use. I paid a one off fee. I think it was only about $80 and free updates and I run it on three devices. I think they are always the most up to date as well.
    [SIGPIC]

    2012 LR Defender 90 (BERT) Gone
    2012 Husqvarna WR 300
    2014 FPV F6 Gone
    2005 D3 SE V8
    2011 D4 V8
    2016 Moto Guzzi California Audace.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,180
    Final post for me in this thread. I took out the tablet over the weekend to Wilbinga but only got to try OziExplorer. I was going to try Memory Map on the return trip but my power supply setup was woefully inadequate and with the missus being at the helm of the tablet it wasn't noticed until too late.

    I have the equivalent of this outlet on a dual plug setup along with a standard 12V plug:
    Products

    I believe the 2.5amps is split across the two sockets i.e. 1.25 amps each as the tablet didn't maintain charge and while being switched of on the return journey only recovered by 5ish%. The normal charger is a 2.1A jobby so I thought the Narva socket would have covered me. I'll use my BlueSea 12v socket adaptor next time.

    Back on topic and Ozi did everything I wanted it too while being simple enough for the wife to use. I did find though that while tracks were far more configurable in terms of data points etc I couldn't figure out how to start a new track. There's lots of info around the CE version and how to do this but not the android, by default you get one track file per day. Its easy enough to join tracks in the PC version but still an annoying problem to me.

    I've attached a screen shot of the trip to the camp site for the sand tracks. I was quite impressed how good the google map rip was.

    I'll be sticking to OziExplorer from now on and will fork out the money when planning the next trip.
    Attached Images Attached Images

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!