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    Quote Originally Posted by bemm52 View Post
    Where did you find a Holden motor in UK they must be rare, 179 would be early to mid sixties I’m guessing.
    Engine mounts need to be changed I have some here I could photograph if you want but I’m sure there would be images on the net.
    Its a very common conversion here but be aware speed is restricted to gearbox and diffs so your not going to get any gains in that area.

    Cheers Paul
    Hi Paul

    every bit of info will be useful so yes please to the engine mount pics 👌

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loading... View Post
    I follow your page on Instagram, great content!!
    Thanks 👍

    If anyone else wants to see more pics of the 109 that the 179 is going into my account name is Mike Att

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    179 with HP casting mark was for a manual transmission used in EH & HD 1964-65.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Att View Post
    I think this engine or a derivative was fitted to some Vauxhall’s in the UK so I’m hoping I might be able to get some basic service parts here in the UK
    No that is not the case - nothing in common with the Holden six and GM Uk engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    The Holden motor is really not a good fit for a LR without the addition of O/d or high speed diffs - doesn't rev enough to suit the LR gearing.

    I had a 161 in my first LR and it was Ok but no better than the 2.25LR engine in my later Series 3.

    I would be looking at something home grown like a Rover 3 litre six which would be better suited.

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    I agree with you here. Back in 1978 I removed the 4 cyl LR engine from my S2A 109 and fitted a 186 Holden engine. Conversion is quite straightforward but the cooling fan on the water pump is too low and doesn't sit central in radiator. I cut the fan blades etc but still had to fit an electric fan in the front in order to get adequate cooling here in Tasmania. The Holden 6 cyl is great for hills etc but in the bush is much worse. I fitted a Fairey o/drive but of course your top speed is governed by diff ratio. The LR clutch and pressure plate is much nicer feel than if you use the Holden components. Questionable whether the Fairey OD can handle the 6 cyl torque as it is I believe based on Rover 2000 (car) g/box bits and in my opinion a bit fragile, I've rebuilt a few over the years. Mine only lasted about 20,000 klms before exploding and it was noisy/whining even with different oil choices. Rover 3 litre with a very mild camshaft improvement to give more torque and a little more hp would be better choice IMHO.
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    The OD can handle a Holden 6 no probs as long as you’re not stupid with it - ran one on a very healthy 202 for years without issues - around 50KKM I did in that and apart from a couple of broken axles, it was fine. That’s assuming it’s in good condition to start with and you don’t use it in every gear - just in 3rd and 4th at highway speeds. It’s completely out of the gearing when disengaged so only high revs and high loads will kill it.

    Thousands of LR’s were converted to these engines - were they ideal? Not by a long way but they were very functional for what they were.

    Also, if you want to sit on 100kph on the highway for 100’s of KM at a time, these aren’t the vehicle you use after all, although I’m happy to do this with my 101, I drive at 85 to 90 which is where it’s happiest at. Fittting a Holden 179 in a S2a 109 Station Wagon
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    The most common Series engine conversion in the UK is the 200tdi which a lot of people have done very successfully. The output of these isn’t to far from the 179 with the 200tdi having slightly more Torque so hopefully we should be ok

    200tdi: 113hp / 195lb Ft
    179: 115hp / 175lb Ft

    Because of the popularity of the 200tdi they are now getting hard to source with prices getting high

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    Looks like you may be buying Holden parts from Aus, usually we are buying Landy bits from UK

    will photograph mounts tomorrow

    Cheers Paul

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    My mounts are for a 2.25 4 cylinder Rover to Holden so photos won’t help you

    8B0644BA-9B4E-4FB7-A64F-75740F052EFF.jpg From Johnson catalogue at beginning of this section
    bottom set of pictures are for six cylinder chassis mounts

    Cheers Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemm52 View Post
    My mounts are for a 2.25 4 cylinder Rover to Holden so photos won’t help you

    8B0644BA-9B4E-4FB7-A64F-75740F052EFF.jpg From Johnson catalogue at beginning of this section
    bottom set of pictures are for six cylinder chassis mounts

    Cheers Paul
    Thats a great bit of info, thanks for sharing 👌

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