I’ve got a S2a 109 SW which was originally a 6cyl but has currently got a terrible Nissan TD23 diesel engine in it. It’s underpowered and incredibly noisy
I have just picked up a Holden HP Red 179 which I am going to be fitting
Being in the UK I’m new to the Holden engines but I do have a Chevy 3100 which has a 261 which is very similar
Has anyone got any pointers of what to look out for fitting the 179?
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Where did you find a Holden motor in UK they must be rare, 179 would be early to mid sixties I’m guessing.
Engine mounts need to be changed I have some here I could photograph if you want but I’m sure there would be images on the net.
Its a very common conversion here but be aware speed is restricted to gearbox and diffs so your not going to get any gains in that area.
Cheers Paul
Was going to ask same question. The Holden will not do the gearbox any favours.
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The link in the 'sticky' section has the instructions for the Johnston's conversion which might help.
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Lots done in Australia in period because plenty of s/h Holden engines available whereas reconditioning a Land Rover motor would have been more expensive. Alignment of the adaptor to the gearbox mainshaft seems to have caused problems with some conversions.
I've personally never driven one with a Holden Motor, I've parted three out and each time the motors went to a mate who plays with older Holdens.
I could probably get a conversion plate from my mate but they are a heavy lump to ship.
The fact that you are starting with what was a 6-cylinder Land Rover gives a bit more room. A lot of 4-cylinder LR's converted here and the front crossmembers tend to get chopped out. The last one I parted out had the top cut out but wasn't boxed in and no drain holes added so it rotted out !
If it was me I'd be looking for an original 6-cylinder motor but they are more common here because they were fitted to the Army Series III's. Parts are getting scarce (read expensive) but I guess they are even less common and more expensive in the UK. The other problem is you need a fuel tanker following you on a trip because they are a bit thirsty......
Colin
'56 Series 1 with homemade welder
'65 Series IIa Dormobile
'70 SIIa GS
'76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
'81 SIII FFR
'95 Defender Tanami
'58 Series II (sold)
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Welcome along - the 179 is a good match for a series and despite what others have said here, the gearboxes can live a long and happy life behind one - the run out between engine and gearbox needs to be spot on and this has caused many failures over the years - easy enough to check with a dial indicator when fitting them together.
You will need different engine mounts and a flywheel adapter. Given so many of these were done here in Aus over the years, these items are still kicking about - an ad in the wanted section here might unearth what you need.
If you need any parts for the 179, they are generally available over here and are a simple and easy engine to work on.
If your vehicle was a factor 6 like you said, its an easier job regarding the length of the engine as the firewall is different and allows the engine to sit back where it's needed - if you do this conversion in a 4 cylinder you need to cut an inch or so out of the front crossmember to make it fit, but you shouldn't have that issue.
Overall it's not a difficult job, but your distance to parts might cause you some delays as far as obtaining what you need.
Good luck, sing out if you need more info - I've done this conversion in both a 4 and 6 cylinder series over the years and worked and rebuild heaps of the Holden red 6's. Look forward to your progress.
Cheers.
Edit - Gromit beat me to some of the info - I was slow in typing while on a teams meeting this morning.
If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.
The Holden motor is really not a good fit for a LR without the addition of O/d or high speed diffs - doesn't rev enough to suit the LR gearing.
I had a 161 in my first LR and it was Ok but no better than the 2.25LR engine in my later Series 3.
I would be looking at something home grown like a Rover 3 litre six which would be better suited.
Garry
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1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
Thanks for all the replies 👍
The 179 popped up on EBay, thought it sounded interesting and was a good price so decided to give it a go
I think this engine or a derivative was fitted to some Vauxhall’s in the UK so I’m hoping I might be able to get some basic service parts here in the UK
The engine was previously fitted to a S1 Land Rover and comes with the mourning plates for that which should be a good start
I just received further pics of the engine, I’m hoping to get it shipped to me ASAP
The 109 was originally a 6cyl so has the extra space at the bulkhead and covers, it also has the Fairey Overdrive fitted. It currently has a Salisbury axle but that will get changed over to Rangerover Diff when possible
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