S1 Holden 186 smoke issues

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Originally Posted by shamirj

I believe its a red holden 202 engine, came out of a 1 Tonne ute of some description, as for the carby I also bought a new refurbished one which i will remove and keep as a spare in case the one fitted to the replacement 202 is no good. I have replaced a lot of parts incl spark plugs, leads, water pump, harmonic balancer etc on the current vehicle which i think are all interchangeable with the 202 (mine is a 186). So will probably leave the 202 as is if all working fine and as it should, no need to go replacing bits n pieces if they aint broke.

Will have another read of the alignment but seems a bit out of my depth.

For now will focus on removing the engine once I source a hand winch to assist with the removal of the 186.

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If you havent already got one fit a Bosch HEI distributor and a Bosch HEC715 coil. The HEI dizzy was standard on the later straight six engines and they are a vast improvement. The HEC Coil was not standard, but is an excellent addition to compliment the ignition system. Combined they improve starting, performance, fuel economy, and pulling power at low revs.
You should pick up a dizzy at a wreckers or on ebay etc, and Bursons, Repco, etc sell the coils for about $80.
Replacement modules for the dizzy are also available if you want to put a spare in your tool box in case of a failure, however failures are extremely rare.

Well worth doing, a very noticeable improvement.

Cheers, Mick.

Thanks Mick for the suggestions - for the moment I would be happy with a non smoking engine let alone performance

1. another part of the puzzle fell into position today the arrival of my hand winch - had same one but threw it out in my last clean out so needed to buy another. Its no engine hoist but have used this device before and it worked well and its compact enough taking precautions to use it. Will use the top beam of the garage roller door to hook up to and remove the old engine. Weather has been wet so have taken some time off the old girl but now with the winch can hopefully remove the remaining block out of the way.

Spoke to my block who is delivering the engine - its coming not this weekend but the following so still have time to remove the 186. I have a lot of new parts on the 186 that I don't want to remove and refit to the 202 as the 202 is running fine apparently so will wait and see. For example the new carby would be a shame not to fit to the 202 but ...

1. this was a worry a brand new water pump in this condition after only ever starting the car never driven when installed some months ago, first thing off was the water pump to give more room.

2. you can see how close the block sits to the front cross member

3. pass side mudguard off as John suggested made life so much easier - and given I had put new bolts in, it was a no brainer and easy to remove in the end

4. next was the manifold again to free up space inside the engine bay and make removal of the block that much easier

5. next the alternator but the bottom bolt is too long to remove to allow the alternator to come out, so had to undo the bracket that's holds the alternator to the block then removed

6-7. alternator removed and then onto the starter which I had bought new from craddocks - see label on starter motor, put away for when required

8. finally measured the gap between the block and front crossmember - not much room, was thinking might be able to slide engine fwd, up and out without touching the gearbox but unlikely. so will loosen remove gearbox bolts and slide back without removing the front and rear tail shafts (if possible) but will need to remove the clutch mechanism.... happy days

If that is the same starter motor that you are using the Conversion must one that utilises the Land Rover flywheel,
so either a home made conversion or maybe a Dellow Conversion, either way provided they are set up correctly they are a
good conversion. The added weight (approx 4.5 kg) of the Land Rover flywheel over the standard Holden red motor
flywheel makes a big difference to the engines low down pulling power.
A Holden 202 with that extra flywheel weight will pull just like the old "adage" say's. ;)

Good luck.
Cheers, Mick.

Whilst my Disco4 has been out of commission and unable to tow my box trailer to collect my holden 202 replacement, my seller kindly offered to deliver, he also had other commitments so we finally agreed on today was the day to have the engine delivered. In the back of a pick up ute with an engine hoist minus the long arms made for some interesting maneuvers until we carefully lowered down to the ground. Sitting on my timber dolly to move around in the garage. We also had to secure the hoist to my caravan to stop the engine topping over due to the missing long arms which would not have fitted in his ute.

1. as it sits next to the S1, first thing is it needs a degrease and wash to get the crap and oil off

2. bits n pieces with the motor, belt, pulley etc

3. front view, apparently came out of a HJ (one tonner ute) i think he said

4. what is this on the side of the carby, mine did not have this on the 186

5. again why another hose, mine did not have this on the 186

6. view of extractors not sure will use these

7. rear view

8. as is untouched for now, first step clean and then prob give it a lick of paint to freshen her up a little

was just wondering how you were going yesterday, you must have read my thoughts.[bighmmm]

just want to clean the block up and get some paint down so...

1. not sure but are these called headers, not sure will keep look to old and rusted out...

2. mysterious part on side of carby, anyone shed some light as to what it is, its hollow and has a butterfly inside

3. pass side stripped of manifold, carby, alternator, engine mounts etc

4. other side, I don't want to disturb the timing after all the problems i had getting that right on the old 186 so may leave as is and paint around it.

Headers are cast iron ,these are extractors , Perry were a good brand from memory , not sure what the thing in the carby is though.

Perry were a good brand. If they aren't rotten and they fit in the application I'd keep 'em.

God knows what that thing on the carby is.

1. cleaning the middle section of oil and grime, used the drill attachment with steel wheel then degreaser then washed with water, will let dry and see if it needs another clean

2. this is that funny thing on the side of carby pulled apart a rubber bit followed by an alum void, inside view

3. view of the side of carby where this sat, must be a diff looking carby to the norm

4. another view, rubber bit slides into position

5. top view has like air opening slots

Is it worth removing the front cover to view what's behind the harmonic balancer for gears etc or leave alone