New D4 is ordered - now some questions!

Hi Mickyd24969,

I've just purchased a D4, 2.7 and have been through the same dilema as you.

The LR factory delivers base model D4 with factory fitted 17" rims to the French market but LR Australia WILL NOT deliver them factory fitted to the Australian markey.

I was informed by LR Australia that my only option is if I want LR Genuine rims is to put them on as an accessory after delivery. There are several 17" steel rims availableif you want a set of off road wheels. I suggest as does Dorko - do the Search or have a look at the FAQ

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Originally Posted by mickyd24969

Dorko, yep, drove both... The 3.0ltr is spectacular :o But after much consideration I just couldn't bear spending my 4wding worrying about tire and rim damage - hence the decision on the 2.7ltr.

But if I can't easily find a legal 17" rim to put on the 2.7ltr I'll change my order to the 3.0ltr!!!

Man I feel like I'm back at square one:mad:

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Aftermarket Performance Wheels BB-6 is available in 17" X 8" and legal. Read it all here:;
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...7-rims-d3.html

Ian

I have a D4 3.0L with 20" rims....

I have been following the 18" rim threads. If the 18" don't come up then I will get a set of 19's with suitable tyres for a trip I am planning next year.

Hey mickyd, I'm with Dorko. Go the 3.0Lt. Once you put the right foot down (especially if you are towing) all your wheel size problems will disappear. I have had the 2.7 and now have the 3.0.

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Originally Posted by mickyd24969

Well, the V8 100 Series has been 4 years of rock solid, bullet proof and reliable 4WDing. :D I've installed a ARB Bull Bar, winch, Lightforce spotties, roof rack, Blackwidow storage and a long range fuel tank. :cool: For Sale if you're interested!

Hence my reluctance to change!:(:(

But it just lacks character! And I've always wanted a Disco :p Furthermore the new Cruiser is too big and poor value for money!

So hopefully the D4 will be as rock solid, reliable and bullet proof - with some character!!!

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Hi Mickey,

I'm in the same boat as you. After years and many models of Cruisers I ordered by first Disco last December - it's now been built and hopefully will arrive in June. You're right about a lot of things - the Cruisers are a sturdy, reliable vehicle; they do lack character and sex appeal; and the new ones just aren't value for money - and I reckon since the Toyota range have taken on the Kluger look with those stupid wing rear lights they are just plain awful. So (hopefully) we've both made the right decision.

My Cruiser had a heap of options on it also - about $12,000 of ARB stuff alone! I listed it on CarSales.Com and it sold after only two weeks. I should have held out longer - though. Initially the interest was slow but after I sold it I had literally dozens of enquiries :mad:. My advice would be give it a good detail inside and especially outside before listing - I actually waxed mine twice in about a month and it gleamed. It's really surprising the simple things you can do to get a sale!

Oh, and another tip. With D4's it's a long time between order and delivery and things get lost in the process! I gave the LandRover dealer a purchase order for the vehicle clearly listing what options I wanted and the final negotiated and agreed price. Turns out when they placed the order for the vehicle they left off the sunroof I'd requested :mad: - I have the choice of taking the vehicle sans sunroof or waiting until December before they build another one! I'm taking it without the roof but now we're haggling over the price adjustments. So advice: get EVERYTHING in writing and make sure you see the order they place on LandRover in the UK to ensure everything you want is there. I must say in retrospect that I found Toyota dealers to be much slicker and better polished than LandRover ones.

The main difference I've found with LandRovers vs Cruisers is that the simple aftermarket things you take for granted with Cruisers such as bull bars, auxiliary batteries, brake controllers, etc, etc, seem to be more difficult to source for the new Discos. All I can say is thank God for this forum! :D

Sorry about the long post but I've just been down the road you're taking and thought this might help.

Ron

Hi Mickyd & Ron & everyone else, I bought my new D3 2.7D in April last year and sold it in December (only lost $1,800.00 BTW and had done 27,000 Klm's). Sold it privately. I now have the 3.0D D4.

I too have had cruisers.....an 80 Series petrol and a 100 Series TD.
When trying to choose between the 200 Cruiser TD & the D3 TD, I was fortunate enough to know an MD of a Toyota dealership and an MD of a Landrover dealership, hence I was able to have new demo's of each vehicle for the whole weekend (Friday to Monday). And how's this......they both had tow bars.
I was able to tow my boat & tool trailer etc with one, unhook then hitch onto the other vehicle. Likewise, I was able to drive through hills and various roads jumping from one vehicle to the other without trailers etc.

My Conclusion: The Cruiser had more grunt on the hills towing and didnt require as many gear changes. The Disco kept up the pace but with an extra gear change. The Disco was quicker to 100Kph with the boat and the tool trailer. Handling with boat etc was much the same.
Where the Disco shined was day to day driving. It was more comfortable to drive and more responsive around town. I fealt like I had to push the cruiser to get it going. The automatic suspenion was great with the Disco when the trailers were hooked up.

Now that I have the 3.0TD D4 I am confident that it would outdo the Cruiser on the hills.

Hope this helps anyone looking to choose or at least confirm your choice if you have already purchased.

BTW: I had my father-in-law with me for the weekend to check out both vehicles. He is a diesel engineer / mechanic. He liked the Disco motor better and also the Disco chasis.

If anyone wants to know anything else about my comparison, please send me a message.

Cheers, Craig

I spoke to my dealer yesterday about the wheels and brake on D4's etc. I have the 2.7 so 17" rims are no problem. He did say that you can legally put smaller brakes on the 3.0L D4's as long as they and land rover parts.

What he did say however is that the speed rating of the tires is where the biggest problem comes in legality wise. The new tires must be rated to the same speed and weight as the stock ones delivered with the car.

Whether the above is correct or not i do not know but though I would pass it on.

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Originally Posted by Disco4SE

I too have had cruisers.....an 80 Series petrol and a 100 Series TD.

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Hi Craig,

I'm coming off a 100 Series TD Cruiser which I used a lot for towing my caravan and boat. How do you find your D4 3.0 compared to the 100 Series towing wise? I was initally reluctant coming down from a 4.2 litre TD to a 3.0 litre TD.

Ron

In most states, for a 4WD the minimum speed rating required for a tyre is 140kph. This is the legal requirement, not the manufacturer's specification.

Cheers,

Gordon

Hi watpub, the D4 3.0 has more power & toque than the 100 Series TD and it is quite noticable especially on hills.
You will be pleasently suprised:).