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I am not due for a trans oil change yet but will likely do it at 80,000, but am interested why to flush the system you have to use the ZF trans oil.
I have no idea yet on how the flush is done, but I assume its to remove any build up left behind, so why cant you flush it with a standard trans oil or even a synthetic motor oil..
Just interested in people's thoughts..
Cheers Ean
Hi Ean,
This has been a hotly debated point for quite sometime and the general consensus seems to be that given that there is a considerable amount of oil left in the torque convertor etc and how sensitive the the ZF gearbox is to various oils , ie; some oils create unwanted slippage and some may actually cause damage {refer caverd3 about this for more info}, it is far safer with these auto boxes to just use genuine oils for the entire task.
Personally i didn't do the flush just a genuine oil change at 100k and will do another at 120 when the next major is due.
Thanks for that, im curious that if the issue is that the box seems to cause a range of issues, and it seems to cure after a flush, then why not change the oil every 60,000 or even 50,000.
I know the oil seems expensive, but if you dont need to flush the system then you only use about half as much( from how I read things)..
I guess I will find out whats involved when I do a change, but the problem seems to me that 100,000 plus between changes seems to long and whether its the filter getting clogged due to this would be interesting to find out..
I have a ZF gearbox in our trawler, might get onto them and see what they say.. (talk to the service guys instead of the sales guys to get their opinion)
Cheers Ean
HI Ean, CORRECT!!!! 100000k's is to long, my auto was starting to show signs of slippage and 80000k's is probably a good time to change/service. Have you read the post regarding changing to an A&B steel pan which will make future changes easier? If not do a search as there is alot of info on this topic IE; auto's, there inherant problems and the advantages of the steel pan change due to the filter access.
cheers
P.S your logic is irrefutible on every level, changing earlier will save money in the long run :-)
Talk to ZF authorised dealers as they, generally} know what their on about. {At least from my personal experience}
Yes I have read about it, I have the CD manual now so will look abit more into it and can atleast comprehend what im reading..I will likely change mine at between 70-80,000 which was what the guys at TRS told me when we bought it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NomadicD3
Will do some more reading and see if someone has recommended where to get the steel pan from..
Cheers Ean
My mechanic just ordered one from Ford!
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Originally Posted by ~Rich~
Ordered 1 what !
Cheers Ean
A steel pan for the auto box ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ean Austral
Yeah the pan is from Ford, same one fits the Falcon XR6 Turbo as it is the same ZF gearbox.
My mechanic was misled by a Oil distributor rep and filled my box with a non approved oil, got it swapped once we found out the truth!
Quote:
Oil which I was not charged a second time for was $45 ltr - 7.3 required.
Steel pan - ZF 6HP26 - $179.85
Filter - $61.52
Gasket - $28.67
Torx screws - $62.37 (21 x $2.97)
Freight - $15.00
Total parts excl oil,labour $364.21
Next time I won't have to buy the Pan of course.
Ayers are now recommending changing oil every 50 / 60,000ks.
Dear Caverd3, how do you get to buy direct from ZF? the price for 20 litres looks better than the $640 plus GST I was quoted as a"good" price locally, I'd be happy to get a pan kit and 20 litres at near the rates you suggest.
Let me know, regards, vbrab