How much is enough?

I'm pretty sure if Landrover had a "M" / "AMG" / "RS" / "R" version I'd be charging down to my dealer begging for a drive.......there, I'm honest.....

I may have just pictured a 6.0L, 375Kw 1100nm TDV12 Disco5 with 8 speed auto and in built ipad.....oh, and one of those new nifty nespresso pod coffee machines built in too......marvellous stuff. :p

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Hey don't laugh BlackPerth, you wouldn't be too far off with your predictions

I'd like to have a go at our 3 ton transporter with 700nm's:cool:

you might still need 6 speeds with that weight,,

but solo?
why do you need a 6 (or more) speed auto with 700nm's on tap?

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

but solo?
why do you need a 6 (or more) speed auto with 700nm's on tap?

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It seems like each additional gear is worth 1l/100km.

Also the smoothness is increased.

I dont think it would ever drop out of top:p:p

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

It's a difficult question to give a definitive answer to, because not only do different people use their 4WD's for different purposes, but even the same person will use it for a variety of purposes, as the modern 4WD is such a flexible beast, regardless of brand.

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Personally I'm not interested in increased power/torque as I don't tow. What I do want is a D5 that gets small car economy and a carbon footprint to boot to keep the greenies (I'm one) off my back:) One that I can charge overnight and run on battery for say 100km on a workday would be nice:D

oh good point - I forgot about the electric motor for short runs ;) great idea!!

This whole idea of "more is good" always reminds me of a hilarious sketch by the Comedy Company in the '90's (or was it Vizard's show...anyway)...after Gillette released the 3 blade men's shaver; they stuck 20 blades together and did an advertisement for "the new Gilette 20".... . ..the voice over was sort of "the first blade extracts the hair, the second trims it, the third extracts a little more and then the fourth trims that etc etc (you get the drill) it was very funny and I had to laugh when I saw Gillette / Schick ? introduced 4 blades last year........how far will they go!!!

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

Personally I'm not interested in increased power/torque as I don't tow. What I do want is a D5 that gets small car economy and a carbon footprint to boot to keep the greenies (I'm one) off my back:) One that I can charge overnight and run on battery for say 100km on a workday would be nice:D

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Why would you want a car that runs on batteries?

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Why would you want a car that runs on batteries?

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A whole other thread would be required for that, and its been done to death:)

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Originally Posted by BPTP7270

In a place with a 110km limit, top speed and for that matter 0 to 100 numbers are a little unimportant to me. What I am astounded at is how relaxed my new D4 2.7 is in delivering the power that it has, in real driving conditions. I have just sold a pajero 3.2 with more power than this, in a lighter vehicle and in comparison it felt like a slug. Like most things performance, it is how the engine, transmission ect uses what it has.

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That's a good point. One thing I can say for certain is that certain cars feel quicker than others, yet they may actually have exactly the same performance. Some cars like a Vogue are so waftily effortless they seem slow...but the same acceleration in say an Elise and you really know you're moving. Also, pure figures never tell the true story of how well a car can perform, for example the Puma Defender and TD5 Defender both knock out 90Kw. However, after my first Puma driver I christened it the "Defender Sport" such was its relative speed to the TD5.

The Pajero 3.2 is probably quicker than the 2.7 D3 I expect, but it's definitely a lot rougher so it feels like it's working harder.