Disco 4 Engine System Failure Warning - beware!

Interesting discussion guys. Given that my 95 300TDi Defender has no real electronics and all the problems (AKA character traits) are simple mechanical ones that can be easily fixed, I think I'll stick with it for a while yet (the other reason is that I can't afford a D4 :( )
Wouldn't ya think that after all the sales and feedback these clowns/ boffins in the LR design dept (and marketing dept) have received about the ongoing problems over the decades, they would apply some energy and effort to actually resolving them at firstly a design stage and secondly at a warranty stage to promote their product. If your local tradesman treated you like this mob do, what would you do? Go back? Hardly. They're treating the party faithful like a mob of protestors; mind boggling really.

Hi Didge,
Firstly, I'm as happy as you are for you to stay with your Def. :)

Secondly, I think you'll find that the "warnings" & "modified operation" are designed to minimise damage to the components identified.

You may think that, because you don't have a vehicle producing messages, that your vehicle is not suffering damage under certain circumstances. In such cases, you only find out when a system fails catastrophically.

Good Luck,
Peter

I am currently in the market for another 4x4 after a long and happy experience with my 300TDI D1 SE but the more I read on D3/4 issues the more concerned I get, the last thing anyone needs is to be stuck in the middle of no were with a random electronic fault especially with the shortage of dealerships in country areas. Not to mention diffs, wheel bearings etc

Landrover what are you doing? :confused:

Gazz

I have now had my D3 for just over 12 months & to date I have not had a problem.
One thing we forget when worrying about the problems is the improvements.

For example I was out with my son in his well sorted D2a last weekend at Mt Disappointment & often I was waiting for him to catch up - this was not a deliberate action it just seemed that the D3 rode with such comfort & eaze compared to the D2a which he drove at a slower speed to be more comfortable.

Mind you this was with my grandaughter & partner in the car who would not have hesitated to tell me to slow down if I looked like going to fast.

In addition on a couple of difficult sections the D3 did it a little easier

I have now owned a 60 series, hilux, D1, D2 & D3 each was a progession in ability & as some can attest on this forum I have not been afraid of getting them dirty.

The biggest single progression was from the hilux to the D1.

In addition dont forget that at the time of release the D1 & D2 were considered to be technically advanced and prone to faults.

Landrover have driven the technology & ability in the 4x4 sector & i guess the offset is sometimes reliability - for example it takes a double locked 76 series to go where an unlocked defender will go.

However having said that it is pleasing to see they are evolving.

Regards

Chuck

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Originally Posted by Bushwanderer

Hi Didge,
Firstly, I'm as happy as you are for you to stay with your Def. :)

Secondly, I think you'll find that the "warnings" & "modified operation" are designed to minimise damage to the components identified.

You may think that, because you don't have a vehicle producing messages, that your vehicle is not suffering damage under certain circumstances. In such cases, you only find out when a system fails catastrophically.

Good Luck,
Peter

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Hi Peter, mate - point taken. I do get a lot of satisfaction from driving a slow (tends to make me relax), simple vehicle (especially if no one is trying to talk to me) but as I said I do look with envy (ok jealousy) at every Disco 3 and 4 I see on the road. A real nice piece of kit they are and believe me, if I could afford one, I'd have one. My comments are due to the fact that deep, down inside its my way of consoling myself that even if I can't afford the one I like, at least I've got a Land Rover. Oh, and we Def drivers wave to each other ( it's a kiddies, cult thing I guess :p)
cheers Gerald

Hi Didge,
Thanks for your reply. :BigThumb:

Regarding waves, I've even started to get a couple of Def drivers waving at me. :) Of course, I ignore them. :twisted: (Just kidding.)

Best Wishes,
Peter

chuckle :)

bump

Phil, just wondering if you have had any success with LRA yet?

Nearly drove off the road the other day when a d3 owner waived at me. It was a few months ago. White with bull bar and tyres with some tread. UHF aerial. Has not happened before despite me generously including them in my waiving audience and not since. Discos were more often bought by enthusiasts than now. Having won a few pagents they seem to mostly now get purchased by toffs which makes it comforting to see some fellas on here have a different view of them and their talents when buying. Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Nearly drove off the road the other day when a d3 owner waived at me. It was a few months ago. White with bull bar and tyres with some tread. UHF aerial. Has not happened before despite me generously including them in my waiving audience and not since. Discos were more often bought by enthusiasts than now. Having won a few pagents they seem to mostly now get purchased by toffs which makes it comforting to see some fellas on here have a different view of them and their talents when buying. Cheers

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I got one of the first build D4s in Oz and was on Fraser Island earlier in the year and here was an identical one sitting on the beach with the owner fishing next to it. I was still in serious permagrin mode and as there weren't many D4s around, I thought it great/weird that the only one I saw all week on the Island was my Stornoway Grey. I tooted and waved.....he looked at me like I was some sort of retard....either that or he was in awe of how beautiful our cars are....LOL!!! Or he was saying "crap....so much for unique"....:)