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Well, I have to say that the gas mileage was bad before the tires and not any better with them thats for sure. I get around 12 mpg. The difference is minimal as I run the tires on the road at a higher pressure. However, I would not trade these tires in for more MPG as its hard to put a price on getting back home safely. These tires are excellent. In the US they are one of the top choices for hard core off road use.
Greg
wow 20 ltrs per hundred :o.
I really hope that is the v8
I've had adjustable rods and they work fine, but to be road legal you should swap back to the standard rods when driving day to day. This becomes a pain swapping between the sets of rods with damage to the standard ones a real possibility after a few changes.
If you can afford it definitely purchase a LLAMS height adjuster as it is as easy as turning a knob to get either extra height or drop the vehicle down lower than standard.
Think of it - More clearance to crawl over rocks while also the ability to drop the vehicle to get under fallen trees.
I have the selectable choice of 170mm difference between lowest and highest settings. Not forgetting the additional 25mm if I get grounded!
Graeme is a Land Rover God!
Thanks.
To be fair, the rods are not illegal in states where you are allowed a 50mm lift without an engineer's cert. In states where that is not allowed, the LLAMS system is just as illegal, and has other issues.
And some versions of the rods (like mine) completely replace the original rods and give both std and +50 on the one rod, so there is no real risk of damaging the originals, which you can keep for when you want to quickly return the car to original condition.
Both systems have their pro's and con's
Cheers,
Gordon
This is effectively a suspension lift???Quote:
Originally Posted by gghaggis
In QLD for example you are allowed to lift the suspension by 1/3 of the (OEM) suspension travel (compression and extension values measured at bump stop). However most people read this as 50 mm rather than calculate the actual value for each vehicle.
I thought most states allowed similar without need for a mod plate or engineering cert? IRC the NCOP - which some states have adopted - allows 50mm suspension + 50 mm body + 50 mm tyres???
I think NCOP is a total of 50mm without engineering and a total of 75mm with engineering. In simple terms this can basically be made up with a combination of tyres, suspension and body lift, with no 1 item being able to exceed 50 mm. For example therefore you could go up from 29 to 31 inch in tyre size and then have 25mm of suspension or body lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzurover
That's how I understood it, but there's a lot in the interpretation, so each state authority may provide a slightly different ruling.Quote:
Originally Posted by trobbo
Ben - yes, it is effectively a suspension lift, but one that can be returned to normal in around 40sec (or 5sec with the LLAMS!).
Cheers,
Gordon
Fail to see why the LLAMS is illegal.
The 50mm lift limit is not stipulated by the authorities. It is actually 1/3 of suspension travel. 50mm is usually the limit for insurance and a common mild lift before you need extra mods, hence there becomes some myth about regulations. If it was 50mm, then how would a roadcar go with such a lift?
NCOP has been agreed but not implemented and is therefore not law, and therefore not worth considering. The standard being pushed for by various bodies is 75mm total suspension + body, no engineering required. There are or will be some qualifications around that. However, the fact ESC is mandatory will throw a spanner in the works and that issue is being debated right now by the aftermarket industry bodies vs other interested parties with the Vic government looking on rather bemusedly.
AFAIK some states have already adopted the NCOP - WA and SA I believe...Quote:
Originally Posted by rmp
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Originally Posted by rmp
My point is that between the LLAMS and the replacement rods, neither are any more illegal than the other. When a comment is made that implies that my product (for which I pay as a vendor to advertise on this site) is more illegal than another, I think I have the right to set the record straight?
Cheers,
Gordon