bright yes, but fog lights, not really
	
	
		
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garrycol
				 
			 If so - are the outer rings very bright and how do they work as fog lamps? Garry
			
		
	 
  I have not actually installed them, but have been watching the thread for quite a few months now.
 
As best I can determine, in the daytime, the rings are quite visible, but that is not the same as providing illumination. They are the same rings as used in various BMW's for their angel lights. The rings fit behind diffusers within the BMW factory lights. At night, with the fog lights off, the rings are even more visible if that is good - I suppose so. I am always concerned about the cop bait bit but ....
 
What is unique about the install, is that whatever H11 bulb you now have in the factory fog light can stay in there and the wiring setup remain stock so that you still have fog lights when you want them. The LED rings you power separately from somewhere somehow with or without a separate switch, as you desire, again the cop bait concern.  Being noticed in a Land Rover - well it is not the FFRR so maybe.