Thread: D4 Landrover Bull Bar - latest news

Baz
Not disagreeing as do not know but a lot of people have the ecb bar
Are you talking from direct experience or your perception

Once again I do not know
Richard

Originally Posted by wbowner

Not disagreeing as do not know but a lot of people have the ecb bar
Are you talking from direct experience or your perception

Material is one thing, but for me it is also the design. I'm not a fan of alloy bars, but the ECB looks well designed - large section hoops with a decent gap between them and the front of the vehicle, similar in design to ARB and OL bars.

The LR bar sits very close to the front of the vehicle and the top of the main hoop is actually bolted to the top of the radiator support panel. If it needs that connection for it's structural integrity it cannot be good. Also look at the section sizes of the outer hoops and the design of the main hoop. I haven't had a good look at the main mounting points, but considering it is made of light alloy and sits over the bumper I wouldn't expect them to be all that robust.

If you like the look of it (is there a vomit icon?), then go for it, but don't expect it to provide any protection against a decent animal strike. I would place it in the category of the old brush bars they used to fit to the D1s and D2s.

Cheers,
Jon

Originally Posted by wbowner

Baz
Not disagreeing as do not know but a lot of people have the ecb bar
Are you talking from direct experience or your perception

Once again I do not know
Richard

Yes I've seen a few over the years, can't tell you what brand they were, but they were stuffed and enough damage that the cars were as well.

To be honest the chances of an animal strike are low, I've had only 2 over the years(not counting birds) an Emu and a kangaroo and I can't count the roo really as it hit me in the drivers door

I try not to travel when they are at the're most active and if you can't avoid those times I tend to adjust my speed and am a little more aware, still the amount of near misses I've had, and I've had quite a few, I just wouldn't risk not having a steel bar, the whole point of a bullbar is to avoid damage to the vehical and the bar, even if the car isn't damaged, the alloy bar certainly will be.

Baz.

Originally Posted by Redback

Yes I've seen a few over the years, can't tell you what brand they were, but they were stuffed and enough damage that the cars were as well.

To be honest the chances of an animal strike are low, I've had only 2 over the years(not counting birds) an Emu and a kangaroo and I can't count the roo really as it hit me in the drivers door

I try not to travel when they are at the're most active and if you can't avoid those times I tend to adjust my speed and am a little more aware, still the amount of near misses I've had, and I've had quite a few, I just wouldn't risk not having a steel bar, the whole point of a bullbar is to avoid damage to the vehical and the bar, even if the car isn't damaged, the alloy bar certainly will be.

Baz.

Thanks Baz

After posting I did a bit of hunting around as well
Some people have hit Roos with ecb alloy bar without damage

General consensus is if traveling at any speed then steel bar is the best option

Rich

I went 2 decades without hitting anything bigger than a fox..

Then in the last 5 years I'd suggest I've hit close on 40-50 Kangaroos, 3 Emus and at slow speed - a cow!

Originally Posted by Tombie

I went 2 decades without hitting anything bigger than a fox..

Then in the last 5 years I'd suggest I've hit close on 40-50 Kangaroos, 3 Emus and at slow speed - a cow!

Bloody hell are you looking for them😁

Animal rights will be after you

Rich

Originally Posted by wbowner

Thanks Baz

After posting I did a bit of hunting around as well
Some people have hit Roos with ecb alloy bar without damage

General consensus is if traveling at any speed then steel bar is the best option

Rich

That says a lot for the ECB bars strength, I've only ever seen one ECB bar up close, I noticed they mount in front of the factory bumper, I would have thought this would take away clearence and approach angle as the mounting points would go under the bumper, but not having a really close look I couldn't say.

Most of the damaged alloy bars I've seen are those factory Nissan and Toyota jobs, they make a right mess after a roo strike.

Baz.

Originally Posted by Redback

I've only ever seen one ECB bar up close, I noticed they mount in front of the factory bumper, I would have thought this would take away clearence and approach angle as the mounting points would go under the bumper, but not having a really close look I couldn't say.

I wonder if you mean they protrude further forward than the factory bumper because that may be the case on the D4. The ECB bar on my D4 certainly does not mount in front of the factory bumper and I doubt it decreases the approach angle either. It's lower mounts are higher than the original bumper.

ARB was too slow at releasing a D4 bar and an ECB alloy bar was going to do a lot better job of keeping the vehicle mobile after a strike than no bar at all. I waited too long to get a bar for my D2 and paid the price.