Thread: 19" Scorpion ATRs fitted on the D4 today.

Gave them a bit of a calibrated push in the wet today, round some tight corners and applied reasonably hard braking on some straights....just to get a feel for them. Did this incrementally so that I could control the car should it let go.

Didn't go crazy but certainly felt pretty sure footed. No slippage at all.

Steering is definately lighter than before and if that doesn't change with less tyre pressure, will take a bit of getting used to.

Also drove over some mud and grass at a mate's place (pretty hilly)...Wranglers usually spun but got through OK.....no issue at all....no slips, no spins.

Quite pleased thus far.

My only complaint about the grip of the ATRs was when on 2 occasions they aquaplaned at 110 kph in very heavy rain. Perhaps I shouldn't have been doing that speed but up until each time they slipped, I felt that I had good control of the vehicle.

Originally Posted by Graeme

My only complaint about the grip of the ATRs was when on 2 occasions they aquaplaned at 110 kph in very heavy rain. Perhaps I shouldn't have been doing that speed but up until each time they slipped, I felt that I had good control of the vehicle.

Good to know Graeme, I've gone through lots of water at lower speed (70 - 80) with no issue (Wranglers) and would be inclined to think that the result would be the same at higher speed.

I'll be more careful now with the new boots.

Cheers,

Kev.

Had a couple of aquaplaning moments with my ATR's over the last 30,000 miles, always with very heavy rain on the motorway or standing water hit at speed (by that I mean about 80mph).

One thing I have noticed them becoming susceptible to now they're a bit worn is sliding on damp roads, ie after a long period of dry weather followed by very light rain or just a light drizzle in the morning (so possibly linked to cooler road surface as well). I can feel the front end lose grip on tighter corners, just doesn't have the same bite anymore. This doesn't happen when it's rained properly, just when it's a very light rain / drizzle leaving the road surface damp.

Bear in mind they're down to ~5mm now, so probably only another 10,000 miles before I'll be changing them and relegating this set to spares.

Originally Posted by Mike_S

Had a couple of aquaplaning moments with my ATR's over the last 30,000 miles, always with very heavy rain on the motorway or standing water hit at speed (by that I mean about 80mph).

One thing I have noticed them becoming susceptible to now they're a bit worn is sliding on damp roads, ie after a long period of dry weather followed by very light rain or just a light drizzle in the morning (so possibly linked to cooler road surface as well). I can feel the front end lose grip on tighter corners, just doesn't have the same bite anymore. This doesn't happen when it's rained properly, just when it's a very light rain / drizzle leaving the road surface damp.

Bear in mind they're down to ~5mm now, so probably only another 10,000 miles before I'll be changing them and relegating this set to spares.

We get a lot of those conditions in Queensland. Just about everytime it's been dry, it's pretty greasy after the first bit of rain.

Cheers

Dropped the Scorpions to the placard pressures last week.

Much, much better/more comfortable ride.

Wife went out for dinner tonight with some of her girlfriends, she's got my D4.

She called about 45 minutes ago to say that she has a flat, apparently the sidewall has been torn out of the front LH tyre. She wasn't aware that she had even hit anything.

I've heard that the some ATRs can have side wall issues, including the Scorpions.....but surely an offroad tyre can't be that bad!

I'm stuck here with our kids, so I guess I will have to wait until LR Roadside Assist do their thing and I get to eyeball the tyre.....geeeeezzzzz!!!!!

$495 a tyre, they've only got about 3000ks on them.........

Have covered 33K now with the 19" ATR's and I must say, I am extremely happy with them. Great in the wet and dry, and good for light off road as well. I have a second set of wheels with MTR's, so havent tried the ATR's in thick mud as yet.
They seem to be wearing very well and there are no signs of any defects.
Cheers, Craig