19" Scorpion ATRs fitted on the D4 today.

**Celtoid** · 12th July 2011, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Disco4SE

Have covered 33K now with the 19" ATR's and I must say, I am extremely happy with them. Great in the wet and dry, and good for light off road as well. I have a second set of wheels with MTR's, so havent tried the ATR's in thick mud as yet.
They seem to be wearing very well and there are no signs of any defects.
Cheers, Craig

Don't get me wrong mate, even though I'd only done 3K on them, I was more than happy.....great, quiet, smooth ride and good wet and dry traction. Haven't done more than a few mud & gravel tracks on them but they poohed all over the OEMs.

I am just paranoid and frustrated that I've had so much bad luck with tyres of late....and at a smash to my wallet!

I've interrogated my wife...LOL....but am no closer to a definative answer. She parked at the kerb, which was full of dead leaves and she was unaware of hitting or driving over anything. However, there was a mini-skip on the pavement, as a renovation or construction was underway.

I've looked at the tyre and something his taken a chip out of the wheel and has cut into the tyre near the rim, penetrating both rubber and carcass. Unfortunately, the 'wound' site is masked, as the deflated, ballooned tyre, must have dragged against the kerb as she went to drive away, causing ragged tearing of the rubber.

Best guess is a piece of steel, maybe rio, was lying next to the skip and hidden by the leaves......

**~Rich~** · 12th July 2011, 03:51 PM

4wd Action magazine has a test of All Terrain tyre.
The Pirelli ATR came out on top of 9 brands.
Just beating the Cooper STMaxx on the 265 / 75 R16 size.

**Disco4SE** · 12th July 2011, 04:12 PM

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**Disco4SE** · 12th July 2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by ~Rich~

4wd Action magazine has a test of All Terrain tyre.
The Pirelli ATR came out on top of 9 brands.
Just beating the Cooper STMaxx on the 265 / 75 R16 size.

Noticed that Gordon from GEO put the ATR's on his own transport

**Plane Fixer** · 14th August 2011, 06:12 PM

Saw a grey NSW reg D4 at Canarvon airport today with Scorpions and had obviously towed a van or trailer over dirt roads. The tyres were in very good nick considering. It certainly appears the way to go as the wranglers appear too road orientated for anything but tarmac.
I am currently driving a company Hilux with 'P' tyres and on a good gravel road already had one puncture on the Murchison road.

**Celtoid** · 17th August 2011, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Plane Fixer

Saw a grey NSW reg D4 at Canarvon airport today with Scorpions and had obviously towed a van or trailer over dirt roads. The tyres were in very good nick considering. It certainly appears the way to go as the wranglers appear too road orientated for anything but tarmac.
I am currently driving a company Hilux with 'P' tyres and on a good gravel road already had one puncture on the Murchison road.

I actually found the Wranglers surprising, in as much as where I got with them....when new. Not very good understandably in mud and probably would get shredded very quickly in sharp rocks.

I think for most drivers they would be OK until they get beyond 40% wear...then they became woefully prone to punctures.

Impressed with the Scorpions so far.

**WhiteD3** · 17th August 2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Celtoid

I actually found the Wranglers surprising, in as much as where I got with them....when new. Not very good understandably in mud and probably would get shredded very quickly in sharp rocks.

After shredding/ripping 3 Wranglers I put Scorpions on the D3 and never looked back.

Just fitted a set to the D4.

**doyfam** · 20th October 2011, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mike_S

Had a couple of aquaplaning moments with my ATR's over the last 30,000 miles, always with very heavy rain on the motorway or standing water hit at speed (by that I mean about 80mph).

One thing I have noticed them becoming susceptible to now they're a bit worn is sliding on damp roads, ie after a long period of dry weather followed by very light rain or just a light drizzle in the morning (so possibly linked to cooler road surface as well). I can feel the front end lose grip on tighter corners, just doesn't have the same bite anymore. This doesn't happen when it's rained properly, just when it's a very light rain / drizzle leaving the road surface damp.

Bear in mind they're down to ~5mm now, so probably only another 10,000 miles before I'll be changing them and relegating this set to spares.

Hi all

My D4 oem's have done 31,000 and on a recent trip to Byron Bay through some heavy rain, the aquaplaning was quite scary. There is a fair bit of tread left however I am thinking of changing early. Reading some of the posts, it looks like the scorpion ATR's are about the only viable 19" option.

Are they readily available at the moment?

**Mike_S** · 20th October 2011, 10:57 AM

19's you're restricted to either the Scorpion ATR's (not the normal Scorpions you've probably got) or the General Grabber AT's. GG's are cheaper than the Pirelli's I think, just depends what's available at the moment.

**Celtoid** · 22nd October 2011, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Mike_S

19's you're restricted to either the Scorpion ATR's (not the normal Scorpions you've probably got) or the General Grabber AT's. GG's are cheaper than the Pirelli's I think, just depends what's available at the moment.

OK, scratching my head....My D4 3.0l came with Goodyear Wranglers....I thought that they all did in Oz.

However at LR in Brisbane one day, there was a wheel with (19") Pirelli Zero's....they looked like the Wrangler equivilent...with maybe a slightly more aggressive tread.

Did LR change suppliers?

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